Starting in January 2025, the dynamic between Shubham, Rebecca, and Chandiran was defined by playful banter, inside jokes, and a strong sense of camaraderie. Rebecca was in San Francisco for part of January, joking with Shubham and Chandiran about "tech bros" at SFO airport, fundraising, and launching tongue-in-cheek startup ideas—complete with mock negotiations for 10% equity in exchange for $50 and the occasional “hair removal” clause. Shubham and Chandiran were quick to riff on Rebecca’s quips, and the three frequently layered their messages with multi-level irony, reactions, and meta-commentary about their interactions. The group started riffing on the idea of writing each other's eulogies and holding annual rehearsal funerals, turning dark humor into a bonding ritual.
The group dynamically tracked Rebecca’s globe-trotting: she departed from San Francisco, stopped over in Hong Kong (momentarily losing her passport and nearly missing a connecting flight), before finally arriving back home—each logistical mishap met with encouragement, teasing, and “legend” status updates from Shubham and Chandiran. Once home, Rebecca appreciated her parents’ efforts to make her space beautiful, which was met with admiration and a bit of relocation envy from the others.
In parallel, the group celebrated minor victories—like operating VPNs in mainland China, successfully navigating border controls, and securing fairlife-caliber ice cream back in NYC. They also contemplated their group identity and considered brainstorming a better name after bonding over eulogy jokes. Shubham and Chandiran’s mischievous encouragement for Rebecca not to get kicked out of immigration, and plans for cold plunges and Central Park “retreats,” added another layer of ongoing shared narrative.
Toward the end of the month, Chandiran hinted at a new business idea, humorously inspired by weed-fueled conversations: a matchmaking algorithm leveraging “preferences” inferred from a user’s porn history, which the group connected to their ongoing jokes about startups, founder personas, and self-aware irreverence. Through all this, the group demonstrated a unique, supportive, and deeply sarcastic form of love, marked by honest feedback, memeification of life’s chaos, and joint anticipation of each other’s stories and plans.
January 2025 continued to set the tone for the evolving friendship between Shubham, Rebecca, and Chandiran. Their group chat remained a laboratory for existential and philosophical banter, where tech speculation, startup jokes, and meta-reflections mingled freely. Late in the month, the trio began using the chat as an active soundboard for emerging ideas—ranging from future of AI and personalization to startup arcs humorously rooted in their ongoing eulogy-writing inside joke.
This period also saw a deepening of their shared culture around television, with new rituals forming around binge-watching shows like Severance and Pantheon, sparking discourse on simulated realities and wild plot theories. Rebecca impressed the group with her speed, finishing shows before others woke up, which they exchanged predictions and reactions about with playful competitiveness and mutual encouragement.
Outside of media, there was a shift toward open discussions about altered states and personal growth through psychedelics and meditation. Both Chandiran and Shubham reflected on transformative experiences—especially encounters with DMT and 5-MeO-DMT—which they linked to shifts in worldview and occasional existential dissonance. This honesty spilled over into conversations about integrating insights, breaking habits, and the difficulty of real behavioral change versus the ephemeral feeling of "having learned something." Rebecca, in particular, was credited by the others for creating an aspirational environment that helped both Shubham and Chandiran sustain meditation and writing habits. A tangible appreciation emerged for physical presence and the influence of lived example—sparking plans for group getaways, like a dream of a remote month-long cabin retreat in Montana or near Yellowstone.
The group also playfully graded themselves on the “woo” or spiritual spectrum, revealing a spectrum from skeptical materialism to budding spiritual openness catalyzed for some by psychedelic experience. This sparked further meta-reflection on belief, integration of insight, and how their definitions of "spirituality" and "woo" have shifted over months and years.
Paralleling these deeper threads, they continued riffing on meme-able life events—Shubham’s freezing ice skating excursion, live updates on Chandiran's dentist visit, and various snippets about edible mishaps and “God tier” rankings of drugs and love. Support and vulnerable shares were reciprocated with humor, validation, and encouragement to be patient amid struggles with habits and change.
The presence of "Doug" (likely Chandiran’s partner), referenced through affectionate banter and inside jokes, added another relational layer and outside connection to their world.
The month thus closed with the group's identity solidifying further—balancing irreverence and depth, personal narrative and collective ambition, all underpinned by a culture of creative experimentation, honesty, and mutual care. Their plans for IRL connection, psychedelic “breakthroughs,” and possible group adventures set the stage for more evolution in their dynamic in the coming months.
As January 2025 progressed, the group’s dynamic continued to intertwine playful irreverence with deep introspection. Shared TV rituals around “Pantheon,” “Severance,” and “Bojack” remained ongoing touchpoints, but their conversations delved even further into self-examination and philosophical musings. An extended thread emerged around navigating altered states—specifically how experiences with substances like ketamine and 5-MeO-DMT offered both existential challenges and new textures for meditation, which Rebecca described as “splash of color” added to an otherwise blank state. Chandiran, in particular, opened up about the existential edge of such states, while all three engaged in teasing out the boundaries between mysticism, agency, and materialist self-concept.
A central concern arose over the tension between their current self-image—rooted in intellect and rationality—and an aspirational openness to mysticism or “woo.” Fears about loss of control, naiveté, and the preservation of ego surfaced, with Chandiran and Shubham exchanging honest doubts about whether their impulse toward mystical experiences might simply be another form of comfort-seeking. By late January, the trio were openly grading themselves along a spiritual-to-skeptical spectrum, examining the convenience (or threat) of mysticism within capitalism and whether believing convenient truths reflects a deeper uncertainty about the nature of the self.
Rebecca’s return to China for professional and personal reasons continued to form a narrative thread, now layered with philosophical coaching from a mentor—emphasizing the “path of least internal resistance” and the importance of trusting emerging talents rather than actively choosing suffering out of misplaced stoicism. Shubham and Rebecca in particular grappled with questions of conviction, assurance, and the human tendency to sometimes choose pain out of fear or as a hedge against disappointment. These introspections led to frank admissions of uncertainty, reminding one other that wisdom often lies in recognizing which obstacles are truly internal and that “most local decisions are reversible anyway.”
Amidst these vulnerabilities, the chat remained a hotbed for startup ideas, rapid-fire tech speculation, and playful competition around creative projects—ranging from LLM agent use-cases, workflow automation, hacks for community archive tools, to deeper explorations of what makes products like TikTok or AI chat apps addictive. Fruit—particularly cherries and watermelon—became a motif of joy and celebration, contrasting with their more somber philosophical explorations. Even Rebecca’s reactions to Shubham’s latest culinary finds or pictures of cats became moments of bonding, substantiating their culture of mutual cheerleading.
The group’s discussions often looped back to their own process: how this very chat helped clarify thoughts, how vulnerability with each other created the psychological safety to explore uncertainties about fear, agency, pain, and self-knowledge. The month ended on a note of mutual gratitude, appreciation, and affirmation—both for each other and for the chat space itself as a forum for reflection, creative ambition, meme-making, and emotional support.
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In the final week of January 2025, the chat between Shubham, Rebecca, and Chandiran became a vibrant forum for epistemological and existential debate, layered with characteristic warmth and banter. Their ongoing inquiry into the tension between “mindful” and “mindless” YOLO (you only live once) morphed into a wider analysis of self-knowledge, conviction, uncertainty, and the navigation of life’s myriad trade-offs. The group riffed on how a “path of least resistance” could coexist with moments of decisive conviction, and whether the oft-cited “strong beliefs loosely held” mantra was even possible, given their struggles to feel certainty in ambiguous life domains.
This dialogue crystallized into a shared realization that “living in uncertainty” was deeply taxing, but that calibrating risk in life was not as clear-cut as it is in trading or investing—where outcomes and data are quantifiable. Through playful analogies to calculus and optimization (integrals as global maxima, differentials as local), they explored how decisions fluctuate from macro life paths down to micro moment-to-moment choices.
Interspersed with these reflections were moments of intimacy—Rebecca shared photos of her home-cooked meals, which spurred affectionate teasing and cultural exchange, while Chandiran’s remarks on creative flow and “thinking in graphs” mapped new territory for personal growth. The group discussed sensory perception expansively, drawing from books and articles to question how human experience is filtered and compressed, both biologically and through the tools of modernity; a running motif emerged about the possibility of “unlocking” new perceptual modes through meditation, psychedelics, or deep writing.
They also doubled down on their commitment to writing and self-reflection, echoing how their chat itself had become an “idea salon” and support system. New startup and product ideas flowed—recommendations for tools to augment memory, creativity, or emotional processing—set alongside grounded reminders not to become self-obsessed in their pursuit of self-understanding. The concept of “relational existence” surfaced with renewed force, as did the theme of tuning one’s environment to support aliveness and growth, whether through global adventures or simple routines with family.
By the end of January, the group’s dynamic was marked by a heightened sense of gratitude and the collective insight that their deepest convictions may also carry the risk of impactful error—a humbling counterpoint that kept their philosophical explorations both sharp and compassionate. Their world, as revealed through the chat, balanced irreverent humor, vulnerability, and creative ambition, hinting that their friendship would continue to evolve as both sanctuary and crucible for growth in the months ahead.
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In the last days of January 2025, the group’s chat intensified as a crucible for mutual care, vulnerability, and metacognitive honesty. The friends navigated a tense and eventually cathartic evening when Chandiran and a friend (Rohith) experimented with edibles, leading to initial anxiety and a brief “emergency” where Chandiran reached out to Shubham and Rebecca for support. This episode, initially tinged with embarrassment and worry, evolved into an outpouring of reassurance and warmth—affirming that their group chat was a trusted safe space for vulnerability. Explicitly, Chandiran and Shubham encouraged each other to share freely, reinforcing that “there is nothing to be embarrassed about,” and Rebecca reaffirmed that caution and reaching out is always the right move when navigating uncertainty.
During this episode, existential reflection merged seamlessly with humor: the group mused on agency, the difficulty of capturing “the sheer amount of ideas” one feels in altered states, and the sometimes bizarre physicality of being “high”—from detailed sensations of grilled cheese and tomato soup to comedic anecdotes about cats misusing litter boxes. Their banter underscored a shared fascination with sensory awareness, embodiment, and the limits of language in expressing deep or altered experiences.
This period also surfaced new insights into group identity. The friends psychoanalyzed each other (and absent friends) both playfully and incisively: Shubham and Chandiran, sometimes with input from “Zu,” constructed friendly psychological profiles, acknowledging struggles with ambition, presence, happiness, and emotional regulation. Rebecca was described as genuinely present but occasionally avoiding hard truths; Chandiran’s lifelong tendency to take the easy way and avoid discomfort led to self-aware admissions about needing to learn resilience “from scratch.” Shubham, meanwhile, emerged as both a playful provocateur and an anchor for reassurance.
Throughout their dialogue, the friends continued to meta-reflect on the nature of friendship, adversity, and emotional exposure—riffing on notions that real friendship is forged in moments of conflict or vulnerability, and debating whether to “engineer” tears from the famously stoic Rebecca as a testament to closeness. Ultimately, the incident proved an opportunity for the group to reaffirm their emotional safety net, gratitude, and deep appreciation for having “it so good.”
Philosophical musings remained close to the surface—exploring the mutability of perception, the tendency to seek change in those we love, and the bittersweet challenges of intimacy and expectation. As Chandiran came down from his high, the group’s relief and renewed sense of connection crescendoed in gratitude and joy, with playfully earnest declarations of being “so back.”
These late-January events crystallized the group’s evolving world: resilient, self-aware, absurd in their humor but earnest in their support, intertwining embodiment, existential curiosity, and social complexity into a living tapestry of experimental friendship, always willing to meet each other on the edge of uncertainty.
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In the closing days of January 2025, the group’s dynamics further deepened and diversified along several emotional, intellectual, and relational axes. The chat became a forum for musings on family, childhood, and personal change. Shubham candidly raised the question of what having a human child would feel like, leading to a light but reflective exchange about the “concept” of children, and logistical commentary as Shubham and Chandiran texted each other while sitting side by side—highlighting the group’s comfort with both digital and physical co-presence, and playful multitasking during shared IRL moments.
As Rebecca departed the chat for a family drive to Yunnan, the conversation shifted toward somatic experiences in meditation and heightened sensory awareness, with Rebecca describing in detail the physical sensations encountered during mindfulness practice. This kind of somatic attention became a touchstone for exploring the intersection of intellect and emotion: how meditation, altered states, and small innovations (like practicing “let go” in multiple languages) can reveal both the limitations and mutability of perception.
The friends’ reflections on childhood and emotional intensity became a springboard for analyzing how frames of reference evolve. Chandiran initiated a dialogue about the depth of childhood emotions versus adult complexity, linking this to story exposure, cultural influences like reincarnation narratives, and the enduring enigma of self-formation. The group collectively acknowledged that, while mature emotions may be clothed in greater context or “frame of reference,” the rawness of feeling remains powerfully somatic—often surfacing unexpectedly in family interactions or memory.
Intertwined with these internal explorations were moments of technical curiosity and analysis. The group dissected AI model training, sharing links and startup discoveries around content cloning and “AI adult content influencers,” exemplifying their ongoing fascination with the human ramifications of exponential tech. Rebecca provided insights into emerging business models in adult content and the ethics of personalization, as Shubham and Chandiran responded with industry know-how, curiosity, and rapid-fire resource sharing.
Emotional vulnerability continued as a motif—especially with Chandiran sharing his efforts to process family relationships, confessing discomfort, regret, and progress through detailed and specific self-examination. The chat became not just a record of confession but of encouragement: Rebecca and Shubham affirmed Chandiran’s openness, reaffirming their commitment to the group as a safe space—and connecting it back to older memories of mutual emotional disclosure, MDMA experiences, and the reciprocal influence of introducing each other to new mindsets and substances. The “gateway friend” label became an affectionate in-joke symbolizing the group’s culture of boundary-pushing and transformative friendship.
Amidst this, everyday intimacy—like being present on family video calls or confronting old guilt about parents—was recognized as both challenge and growth. The group reiterated the importance of intentional presence, humility around the limits of self-awareness, and acceptance of the partly unknowable roots of identity.
By late January, their chat flowed among practical discussions (sleep routines, meditation exercises), meta-reflection on emotional patterns, the real-time formation of vision boards and life goals, and flowing links to media and philosophy. The rhythm of chat underscored a simultaneous deepening of individual self-reflection and collective expansion into new ideas and technologies. A recurring theme of “dynamic identity”—in personal history, relationships, ambition, and tech—pervaded their exchanges, as did a growing comfort with ambiguity, imperfection, and the willingness to share unvarnished thoughts, trusting in mutual tolerance and growth.
No content removed. January’s narrative now reflects increased focus on family relationships, adult versus childhood emotional frames, technological curiosity (AI, personalization, media), and the group’s evolving practices of presence, accountability, and vulnerability. The timeline captures the group’s synthesis of playful irreverence, deep self-examination, and collective support—with IRL overlap, somatic insights, and playful blame games (“if something goes wrong in your life you know who to blame”) highlighting their ease and resilience.
In the final stretch of January 2025, the group’s chat vibrantly toggled between daily logistics, existential questioning, and pragmatic advice, further solidifying the group’s balance of playfulness and substance. Shubham reassured Chandiran of steadfast support around drug safety, echoing the group's ongoing attentiveness to mutual well-being and risk management, especially regarding altered states. These moments showcased not only their emotional availability but also a growing discourse on agency and self-discipline—a dynamic often turned into light-hearted, mantra-like affirmations ("agency is i").
The trio dove deep into the practicalities of NYC coworking and “life set-up” as Rebecca planned her return, with Chandiran offering insights into the atmospheres and cultures of various workspaces (Fractal Tech’s engineering and startup lean, Verci’s creative vibe). The group reflected on how environment shapes productivity and peer group, blending nostalgia for past hackathons and inside jokes about “yappy” founders with realistic self-appraisal of their own commute habits and preferences. Chandiran’s mention of Rohith and other recurring extras in their orbit highlighted the porousness of their friend group, with connective threads looping through mutual friends and shared professional spaces.
Simultaneously, meta-commentary bubbled up as they compared life’s financial and existential gambles—laughing about trading psychology, the seduction of crypto, and “shitcoin” adventures. Rebecca’s candid confessions about both epic gains and losses prompted confessional humor from Shubham and Chandiran, merging stories of spectacular wins with the somber wisdom of “rest and vest.” The group playfully quantified what it would mean for the chat to collectively “make it big”—paper unicorns versus liquid billions, private jokes about trading lounge access, and boisterous brainstorming of “shortest paths” to a billion. In these exchanges, ambition, humility, and realistic self-awareness coexisted with intimate laughter and affectionate ribbing.
Emotional check-ins continued in parallel—group encouragement of healthy routines, reflections on their ease with discussing both world-altering tech news (like the DeepSeek blowup) and the simple joys of “cream strawberries” and red envelopes for Chinese New Year (CNY). The period was punctuated with personalized well-wishes for the holiday, and the sharing of childhood traditions—Rebecca’s nostalgia on receiving cash gifts, and the transition from familial support to financial independence, which was met with humor and gentle encouragement never to “grow up” entirely.
Day-to-day victories and surprises—like Shubham’s successful retrieval of a misplaced suitcase from an Airbnb, and Rebecca’s discovery of exquisite strawberries—became metaphors for contentment and “the little pleasures in life.” These grounded moments coalesced with playful plans for future group “stunts” or NYT-worthy events, underscoring the group’s commitment to creativity and shared adventure.
By the month’s close, the group’s dynamic was a tapestry woven from pragmatic advice, candor about desire and limitation, rapid-fire tech curiosity, and celebrations of the everyday. Support was ever-present—from late-night reminders to sleep and put away their phones, to real-time encouragement around ambitions and resets. There was a comfortable oscillation between worldly ambition (the “billy” dream) and the recognition that “cream strawberries” might be just as worthy a pursuit. Their dialogue reflected a deepening cycle: mutual care, creative hustle, and a shared readiness to find both meaning and amusement in everything from startup sprints to philosophical memes to a perfectly sweet piece of fruit.
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As January 2025 transitioned into February, the group’s chat exhibited a renewed sense of joy and vulnerability anchored in both sensory pleasures and shared ambition. Rebecca’s discovery of “cream strawberries” and vivid descriptions of daily contentment while traveling became symbols for the group’s ongoing debate over life optimization—namely, whether happiness is best found in simplicity, family, and a beautiful place, or through ambition and hustle in more demanding environments. This thread wove through lighthearted comparisons—Rebecca and Chandiran extolling India and Bali as havens of “cheap happiness” and “authentic food” compared to the underwhelming culinary landscape of NYC, with Shubham musing about how easy it is to feel happier in these simpler contexts.
The friends’ exchange of photos and playful talk of photoshop artistry (with Chandiran showing off his skills), as well as sharing lighthearted moments like fireworks celebrations and cat-sightings, rendered physical distance less relevant and emphasized the warmth and presence they create for one another online. Playful competition and cheerleading continued as motifs—Chandiran’s meme-ification of “builder” slogans and rally-cries about high agency, delusional optimism, and the founder’s mindset inspired joking but also reflected their collective ambitions. Dreams of future “billionaire” status became running jokes, with the trio affirming it was simply a matter of “keystrokes on a laptop”—but also recognizing the importance of finding joy and meaning in small victories and sensory pleasures.
Practical planning cropped up around prospective travels—Rebecca’s planned trip to Hanoi, Shubham’s weddings in Delhi and India, and brainstorming of a group “cabin in the woods” retreat for deeper friendship (with playful arguments about including or skipping MDMA). Nostalgia about past trips merged with logistical plans for future IRL connection, often pausing for detailed debates about dates, travel durations, and best timing for everyone’s nomadic schedules.
A parallel thread delved into altered states, meditation, and dreamwork. Rebecca began experiencing vivid dreams and somatic sensations during meditation—sharp pains and “electricity” waves that startled and fascinated the group, leading to discussions of Tibetan practices like Dzogchen and recommendations for retreats like Vipassana and Auroville in India. The friends compared meditation styles and benefits, with Shubham encouraging Rebecca’s progress and Chandiran playfully owning up to having “fallen off” his practice for a few days before recommitting. Their supportive accountability for habits—meditation, journaling, and generally “trying new things”—remained a hallmark, with praise passed around for sticking to routines and encouragement expressed when sharing self-doubt or uncertainty about “doing it right.”
Simple daily moments—like discussing kimchi serving sizes, or the impossibility of falling asleep while meditating—became opportunities for curiosity, affirmation, and troubleshooting together. The group’s dynamic in this period—anchored by sensory stories, philosophical banter, practical dreaming, and celebratory irreverence—demonstrated a deepening ease with shifting between big ambitions and the joys of “the little things.” As February began, their narrative arcs became more intertwined between dreaming, doing, and reflecting together, with ongoing plans for reconnection, both in-person and through shared adventures in creativity, exploration, and self-inquiry.
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In early February 2025, the group’s conversations shifted even more toward deep introspection, meditative practices, and the nature of consciousness while maintaining their characteristic playfulness and warmth. Their discussions about meditation practice crystallized into concrete plans: Rebecca proposed attending a 10-day Vipassana meditation retreat in the U.S. instead of India, voicing concerns about the logistics and comfort of remote Indian centers, to which both Shubham and Chandiran responded with curiosity and tentative enthusiasm. The trio began to coordinate application timings and strategize about securing spots—Rebecca went as far as submitting applications to multiple centers across the country, both as a testament to her eagerness and to maximize the group’s potential to experience a transformative retreat together later in the year.
The process of seriously debating—and joking about—the rigors of silent meditation (no writing, no talking, no digital distractions, hours of disciplined sitting) provoked meta-conversations about the mind’s attachment to inspired thoughts and the futility of trying to hold on to every “banger” idea produced during meditation. Rebecca and Chandiran agreed that only the most genuine insights—those that truly “matter”—endure, with Chandiran taking the metaphor further by claiming that insights are nurtured like branches from mini-insights (“mini bangers”). This motif echoed throughout, offering both a philosophical touchstone and a running group joke.
Intertwined with these plans were playful references to Erika, a friend in their broader community, who had introduced a comically bad “potassium salt” into the household—spurring jokes about shared suffering and collective “torture” rituals that bound the group together. These light moments, like the infamous “ice cube” incident, reinforced the group’s ability to weave inside-jokes and chemistry into deeper, more existential themes.
Debates about the accessibility, legitimacy, and perception of retreats (and meditation in general) within their families and broader cultures surfaced, revealing differences in cultural context: Rebecca expressed that her parents might see meditation and retreats as “cultish,” whereas Chandiran’s family, having lived in spiritual communities, were more open-minded. These exchanges highlighted not just cross-cultural nuance, but also the group’s willingness to probe taboo and the zone of cultural “minibosses” they would need to face in pursuit of personal growth.
Parallel to their retreat logistics, the trio delved into the nuances of altered states—comparing the mechanics of Vipassana, Jhana-focused meditation (which the group debated attending despite its high price), and the effects of psychedelics like DMT. Rebecca revealed that her own ability to meditate shifted radically after her DMT experience—what once felt impossible (long stretches of sitting) now came naturally, prompting Chandiran to reflect on not having known the “non-meditator Rebecca.” Such admissions cemented the importance of witnessing each other’s evolution and tracing the boundaries between substance-catalyzed and self-directed change.
Their ongoing curiosity about the interface between mind and body led Chandiran to introduce Michael Levin’s research on bioelectricity and the “competing incentives” at each biological layer (cellular, multicellular, organismic), leading to an enthusiastic exchange about the future possibility of conscious, self-directed healing—a vision of radical self-actualization. The group riffed on the idea that current meditation practices might one day give way to even more powerful, targeted mind-body interventions, foreshadowing a collective optimism in biomedical innovation.
Daily logistics threaded through as always—Rebecca mapping out her upcoming travel through Hanoi, Delhi, and a likely return to NYC, the group checking in on meditation habit streaks, and the ever-present undercurrent of longing for IRL reconnection. “We’re so back” became a rallying cry for renewed commitment to growth, both individually and as a trio, and ongoing playful one-upmanship (“bangers stand on the shoulders of mini-bangers,” “shutdown the banger psyop,” etc.) set the emotional tone for a month defined by play, earnestness, creative ambition, and radical candor.
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- The concrete planning for and attitudes toward group meditation retreats (Vipassana/Jhana).
- Humor and community rituals involving shared “torture” or “initiation” experiences (potassium salt, ice cube moment).
- Cultural/familial tensions around meditation and “cultishness.”
- The transformative interplay of psychedelics, meditation, and habits.
- Philosophical and technical exploration of consciousness, mind-body links, and future healing.
- Ongoing travel, habit accountability, and reaffirmation of deep group bonds through playful and existential discourse.
In the first week of February 2025, the group’s chat took a distinct turn toward the intersection of deep somatic awareness, biomedical speculation, and their ongoing irreverent startup banter. Rebecca mused on the possibility of “feeling tumors”—wondering if highly meditative or somatically attuned masters, such as Zen teachers, ever sensed impending illness like cancer within themselves. This curiosity led to a lively exchange about the limitations and potential of both somatic awareness and Western diagnostic medicine, with Chandiran humorously conceding the irreplaceable value of x-rays for acute conditions, but expressing hope that chronic disease could one day be addressed through heightened embodied attunement.
This conversation evolved into a playful yet earnest brainstorming session about the future of “enlightenment as a product”—punning on the commercialization of spiritual or wellness breakthroughs as plausible future startups. Jokes about “attention as a service,” “raising $2M,” and “moonshot health” blurred with reflections on the biophysics of disease, especially the notion (attributed to Michael Levin) that “cancer is an identity crisis for the cells.” The group riffed on the wild idea that self-directed healing or somatic communication could one day remove the need for invasive diagnostics, imagining a billion-dollar “enlightenment tech” venture.
Chandiran and Rebecca compared this speculative vision to the recent wave of tech-founder-led meditation startups, like Jhourney, discussing both their business models and the genuine transformative potential (and possible scamminess) of selling “bliss on demand.” Shubham chimed in with firsthand accounts and external resources on meditative “jhanas,” detailed descriptions of the Tranquil Wisdom Insight Meditation (TWIM) method, and dozens of links to intro practices, articles about jhana meditation in both tech and spiritual contexts, and comparative analyses of techno-spiritual product competitors. Together, the trio critiqued and celebrated the emergence of a new vertical where the boundaries between cult, movement, healing, and business are increasingly blurred.
Alongside their irreverent founder banter (joking about raising millions, buying jets, and “cha-ching” moments of VC-funded enlightenment scams), the group dug into the challenges of introducing meditative and spiritual practices to family and across cultures. Rebecca offered insight into the linguistic and cultural gap between English renderings of practices like loving-kindness meditation (“metta”) and the much more archaic, symbol-heavy, and “cultish-sounding” translations found in Chinese—a point that resonated with Shubham and Chandiran, sparking meta-reflection on how language, symbolism, and historical context shape receptivity to modern spiritual movements.
A thread of inquiry developed about the role of language in shaping cultural and even civilizational trajectories, with Rebecca speculating that Chinese character symbolism may both increase the gravity of spiritual teachings and raise the “cult potential” for certain new practices. The group found themselves humorously strategizing about how to introduce meditation or metta sessions to skeptical family members (“just say we’re doing meditation, not naming it anything”), in the hope that experience would precede judgment.
Their scientific curiosity and technical edge remained present throughout, as they explored the latest in neurotechnology (discussing transcranial focused ultrasound—“tfus”—and possible brain-computer interface applications for nudging meditative states). They shared resources, referenced ongoing advancements (like Prophetic AI’s experiments and FDA loopholes), and contemplated future health start-ups that merged mind, body, and tech innovation.
Finally, the friends circled back to the somatic core of their experiments: Rebecca’s report of anchoring her meditation in the “memory of solo MDMA moments” illustrated the personal blend of altered states, contemplative focus, and self-experimentation fueling both their individual and collective journeys. These moments were met with warmth and encouragement, embodying their on-brand mix of experimental rigor, supportive play, and the ongoing search for meaning at the blurry edges of science, culture, and consciousness.
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- Group speculation about direct somatic healing (“feeling tumors”), blending biomedicine, spirituality, and startup shenanigans.
- In-depth exchanges on “enlightenment tech,” jhanas, metta, and the crossover of meditation/psychedelic business models.
- Meta-commentary on language, symbolism, and cultural acceptance of modern spiritual practices—especially across English and Chinese contexts.
- Discussions on neurotechnology (tfus, tacs, tms) and their relationship to consciousness hacking/startup innovation.
- Practical and personal reports of meditative practice, psychedelic integration, and the group’s playful, entrepreneurial optimism.
In early February 2025, the group’s chat moved fluidly between affectionate check-ins, philosophical debate, startup and science rabbit holes, and highly specific explorations of digital health and biohacking. Rebecca, Shubham, and Chandiran continued to express mutual longing for IRL connection—especially after Chandiran updated the group on a cozy, drug-free dinner and hangout with Doug, demonstrating their appreciation for even mundane, substance-free forms of intimacy and companionship. This underscored the resilience of the group’s emotional bond, as well as the porousness between “the three” and their wider friend orbit.
A major thematic current during this period involved deep dives into the philosophy of language and its role in shaping culture, perception, and even thought itself. Shubham led a meta-conversation on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis and how the symbolic nature of language influences the accessibility of concepts, steering the trio into broader discussions about the domino effects of civilization, culture, and the limits of translation—threads often tied back to differences in English and Chinese cultural encounters with spirituality and meditation.
The group’s appetite for philosophical and technical moonshots found a new muse in the work of Michael Levin, with Chandiran and Rebecca bonding over a podcast that detailed Levin's approach to cellular intelligence, computation in biology, and the idea that all living structures can be interpreted through software-like principles. They mused about the boundary between hardware (the body) and software (mind, agency), analogizing meditation and even drugs as forms of “wetware upgrades.” This inspired bursts of creativity: a planaria poster design session, using the immortal, regenerative worms as symbols of computational, evolutionary possibility and a celebration of collective geekdom and DIY artistic collaboration.
Layered into these threads was an extended and candid exploration of digital health and the startup landscape. Shubham probed Chandiran about data integration challenges, patient incentives, business viability, and the nuances of building consumer health products powered by AI or chatbots. Chandiran, drawing from his notes and industry experience, explained why “vitamin not painkiller” consumer apps struggle for traction: lack of robust data, poor feedback loops between knowledge and action, unappealing ICPs, and the complexity introduced by data silos and specialized applications (such as women’s health or aging). Their conversation transitioned into the economics and playbooks of the supplements industry, where the trio mapped modern direct-to-consumer supplement ventures as fundamentally marketing plays, reflecting on the differences in business incentives and patient outcomes compared to more regulated sectors like prescription drugs.
This thread expanded into biohacking and longevity—with Chandiran showcasing his research on emerging space like topical peptides for skin, underground forums on substances like BPC-157, and his favorite acceleration-friendly longevity startup (loyal.com) that leverages faster animal models (like dogs) for clinical trials. The group openly weighed the limits of current biotech, the “black box” nature of peptide testing, regulatory arbitrage, and the psychological nature of self-care—humorously noting that knowing the science is not always enough to live healthily day-to-day.
Throughout, the group expressed gratitude for their intellectual freedom and capacity to appreciate both new scientific discoveries and classic literature (like Tagore), seeing themselves as unusually blessed to “explore the modes of the human condition.” Even practical planning for Rebecca’s upcoming health check triggered passionate debates about which blood panels and tests offered genuine value versus “biohacker theater,” accentuating their ongoing commitment to rigorous curiosity and applied skepticism.
All of this was threaded through with characteristic banter, memes, and meta-commentary—a recognition that insight, whether “mini-banger” or “banger,” endures collectively, and that most product ideas live somewhere on the spectrum between vitamin and painkiller, moonshot and meme. Plans for art projects, sharing of memes and notes, and the layering of affection (“miss you three a lot,” “soon I will love myself enough to apply what I know for my own health”) crystallized this stretch of February as one of creative, intellectual, and emotional high-output—an ongoing testament to the trio’s willingness to inhabit the edge of what’s possible together.
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- Explicit emotional check-ins and expressions of missing each other, blending digital and IRL connections, and Doug’s ongoing presence.
- Philosophical explorations of language, cognition, and culture, especially via Sapir-Whorf.
- In-depth engagement with Michael Levin’s work and its impact on group imagination, artistic collaboration (planaria poster), and software/hardware analogies for mind and body.
- Extended debates and shared learnings on the nuances and pain points of digital health, biohacking, longevity, supplements, and AI in healthcare—anchored by real-world startup and product analysis.
- Commentary on the nature of lifestyle change as a psychological, rather than technological, problem.
- The group’s joyful affirmations of their mutual intellectual and emotional luck, and the comfortable coexistence of scientific rigor, practical skepticism, and playful spirituality.
In the second week of February 2025, the group’s chat deepened into a blend of philosophical inquiry, creative collaboration, and meta-reflection about their own habits and information diet. The friends spent significant time discussing the sacredness of mindshare—debating how attention is shaped by consumption, with Rebecca reflecting on the corrosiveness of certain forms of media (like TikTok) and the ways in which “everything we consume, via all senses, changes us.” This led to Chandiran advocating for intentional selection of content, recognizing the internet as a place of both dangerous brainrot and pockets of genuine art and insight. The trio riffed on the idea that “self is blurred” and even “self is everything,” recognizing the omnipresence of both internal and external influences as well as the pressures exerted by platforms and algorithms for their attention.
The group’s ongoing efforts to optimize routines resurfaced with a creative reframing from Chandiran: the concept that “your new day starts when you go to sleep, not when you wake up.” This gave rise to discussions about pre-sleep routines, intention-steering, and using meditation or prayer (liberally defined) as a daily anchor for memory, presence, and self-renewal. The group agreed on the importance of these ritual acts—be it meditation, journaling, or simple intention-setting—as a way to recalibrate amidst digital chaos.
Parallel to these abstract debates, the group engaged in richly collaborative creative work. Rebecca and Chandiran discovered a shared passion for photography, trading photos and discussing editing styles, cameras, and the pleasures of photo walks. This thread extended to technical admiration for each other’s skills and an impromptu plan for future creative meetups—layered on top of jokes about option paralysis and needing a project management tool for tracking their many unfinished joint endeavors. The friends joked about their perennial “backlog” of projects, embracing the abundance of possibilities while also acknowledging the real inertia of too many options.
Philosophical discussions about attention and the self spilled over into reflections on curiosity, inspiration, and recovering the openness of childhood. Rebecca noted that meditation had helped rekindle a lost sense of curiosity, and linked her own practice to the period following early DMT experiences—a connection that further cemented the importance of conscious experimentation and habit-building as central to their dynamic.
Writing and creative expression also became a locus for vulnerability, with Shubham sharing the emotional barriers he faces when trying to write for a public audience—the “flinch” rooted in fear of rejection, being unseen, or losing to others. The trust and safety of their group chat allowed for a freer flow of stream-of-consciousness writing and encouraged gradual expansion into larger audiences, highlighting the chat’s role as both sandbox and incubator for personal growth.
The intellectual current continued with an exploration of embodied cognition, vasocomputation, and the biological substrates of suffering—sparked by shared links and threads about Buddhist phenomenology and contemporary neuroscience. Shubham introduced the group to theories positing that the Buddhist notion of suffering as “grasping” could be physically rooted in blood vessel constriction, launching a deep-dive into embodied emotion and the overlap between meditation, biology, and engineering. Chandiran and Rebecca both resonated with the concept that “the self is a construct; there are no lines; everything is embodied.”
Creativity remained at the forefront: the group embarked on a spontaneous planaria-themed art project, envisioning cyberpunk “planaria astronauts” and trading ideas about artistic direction, color grading, and narrative possibilities (such as a “400 million year old love story”). These collaborative sprints reflected not just artistic inspiration but their characteristic humor and affection, with jokes about making planaria the national animal of their hypothetical nation.
Scientific and philosophical awe continued to animate their exchanges. The group engaged with the insights of physicist Sara Walker and engineering-oriented thinkers like Michael Levin, exploring the connections between consciousness, physics, and the limits of human perception—riffing on the idea that “time is ever present” and that a truly non-dual or timeless perspective blurs the lines between individual and collective, observer and observed. The friends celebrated the diversity of paths to similar underlying truths, noting that mystical insights could align surprisingly closely with physics when approached via meditation, psychedelics, or direct experience.
Practical and meta themes persisted: longing for in-person connection, the need for better tools for collaborative project tracking, nostalgia for curiosity and artistic experimentation, and shared gratitude for the chat as a “goldmine” of ideas, links, and emotional generosity. Plans for future travel (like potential visits to Burning Man or Chinese national parks), more creative projects, and even the design of better group infrastructure—both digital and physical—remained interwoven with the ongoing project of living intentionally, steering attention, and supporting each other’s curiosity and growth.
No content removed. The February timeline now explicitly integrates:
- Philosophical discourse on attention, mindshare, and the blurring of self.
- Collaborative creativity around photography and illustrated planaria—plus the playful need for project management.
- Ongoing discussion of habit, inertia, ritual, and intentional daily routines.
- Emotional vulnerability around public creative expression, with group chat serving as incubator.
- Deep dives into neuroscience, embodied cognition, and Buddhist philosophy.
- Expanding project and travel plans, gratitude, and shared tools for collective memory and growth.
In the second week of February 2025, the trio’s ongoing dialogue evolved in both intimate and playful ways, highlighted by the adoption of a new group chat profile picture (pfp)—eliciting delight and affirmations about the “cuties” in the photo and reinforcing a sense of belonging and warmth that transcended digital space. This period was characterized by an increased focus on sleep routines, with playful accountability as Chandiran’s late-night schedule became a lighthearted group project for improvement, and mutual confessions about jetlag and “revenge bedtime procrastination” set the tone for shared vulnerability and pragmatic problem-solving.
The friends’ meditation journeys remained central, with in-depth exchanges about the qualitative thresholds and subtle resistances encountered at the 30-40 minute mark of their practice. Discussions drew on detailed reflections and shared resources related to advanced meditation techniques such as opening awareness (shi-ne) and the experience of cessation, weaving together first-person accounts, articles, and humor. Rebecca and Shubham noted that, while their minds typically told them they had reached a “natural stopping point” around the 40-minute mark, pushing past this often revealed less mental noise, sparking curiosity about the potential of longer, deeper sits. Shubham articulated never having intentionally “forced” himself past the mark, speculating about the possible benefits of a timer to go further.
This week also introduced the impact of meditation on the group’s dream lives and somatic experience. Both Rebecca and Shubham reported a notable uptick in vivid, specific dreams or even nightmares, with Shubham recounting a peculiar and humorous dream about being kidnapped by a heroin addict—a scenario that the group dissected for both its philosophical undertones and comedic elements. This exchange led to ruminations about the “dark night of the soul,” the increased emotional granularity and recall of dreams post-meditation, and the links between altered states, the subconscious, and personal change. The group normalized somatic effects associated with deepening meditation—head tingling, sharp “buzzes,” and persistent awareness—and held space for concerns about discomfort, contextualizing them within phases of transformation rather than alarm.
Gratitude and emotional support were once again foregrounded as Shubham openly shared his newfound ease around guilt and self-blame, describing a more solution-focused and accepting attitude toward “wasted” days and negative emotions. Rebecca echoed this sentiment, linking these mental states to improved sleep and the release of self-admonishment. The chat, as ever, served as an anchor for affirmation and celebration of one another’s incremental psychological growth.
Significant logistical updates punctuated the week—Shubham securing a 5-year Indian visa in anticipation of future weddings and travels, group troubleshooting of jetlag remedies, and updates on local life routines from each member as they navigated time zone changes and family obligations. The ongoing challenge of maintaining habits surfaced in the micro-decisions of daily life, with the group sharing strategies for sleep hygiene and discussing the trade-offs between family time, exhaustion, and the demands of optimizing for rest.
A burst of delight came when Rebecca’s family welcomed a toy poodle puppy (“Latte,” named in Chinese)—their first-ever pet. The group greeted this milestone with congratulations, empathetic sadness at Rebecca’s imminent departure from home (and therefore from the puppy), and a string of enthusiastic banter about canine temperament. The conversation deepened their intimacy and curiosity about each other’s upbringings, noting the differences between pet personalities and humorously comparing the shy new puppy to a cat. Even this light exchange was laced with deeper reflection, as Rebecca acknowledged her parents’ benefit from the new companion in her absence, highlighting the family’s evolving relational dynamic and the bittersweet nature of transition.
Amidst all this, the trio demonstrated their ongoing process orientation—discussing backlog and project management for their ever-increasing list of collaborative ideas (“vibe coding,” topic segregation for saved resources, and annotation tools), and trading new banger links across domains from biotech to meditation to speculative collapse scenarios. Plans for group content repositories and product features again underscored their blend of playful ambition and authentic creative energy.
This stretch of February was thus marked by a rich synergy between the practical, the somatic, and the deeply relational: sleep and jetlag advice, meditation breakthroughs and dream lucidity, the adoptive joy and coming loss of a family pet, and the microdynamics of encouragement, celebration, and meta-reflection on their habits and evolving selves. The trio’s world continued to expand—rooted in daily support, collective optimism, and a deepening trust in the rhythms of personal and group transformation.
By mid-February 2025, the group’s chat acquired a distinctly tender, playful, and multi-generational tone, anchored around the milestone of Rebecca’s family adopting their first pet—a toy poodle puppy named Latte. This event quickly became a focal point for both practical exchange and deeper reflection on love, responsibility, and the learning curve of integrating a new family member (canine or otherwise).
Shubham, drawing from his experience with his own dog Bunny, offered candid insights about the emotional journey of pet ownership: the anxiety, mistakes (including inadvertently traumatizing Bunny through misplaced scolding), and the eventual blossoming of unconditional love. The group acknowledged, often with self-deprecating humor, that owning dogs (and by extension, raising children) is as much about learning from error as about best intentions, echoing the sentiment that “good things come with anxiety.” Rebecca’s wonder at the non-verbal intelligence and quiet affection of the puppy paralleled Shubham’s earlier path to seeing and appreciating Bunny, sparking a poignant thread about the evolution of responsibility and the different but overlapping challenges of animal and human parenting.
Philosophical debate on parenting styles surfaced, prompted by Rebecca’s sharing of a Tim Ferris podcast with Naval talking about “radical sovereignty” for children. The friends compared this to their own upbringings and toyed with the tension between over-worry and children’s resilience, reflecting on the risk of trauma (explicitly referencing formative experiences, year 0-1), and the blurry boundaries of “core needs” versus inevitable mistakes. Chandiran entered the discussion with resources from Twitter on Montessori and “sovereign parenting,” broadening the context and highlighting the ever-evolving landscape of advice, philosophy, and real-life chaos in both animal training and parenting.
The chat’s warmth was further burnished by group in-jokes about dog and human intelligence, with “quiet ones” being coded as the smartest, and the playful introduction of Chandiran’s nickname “momo”—a term now poised for broader adoption within their circle and at future gatherings like Burning Man. This running joke about alter-egos and the desire to “try out someone new” tied into ongoing themes of experimentation and self-reinvention, characteristic of the group’s relational style.
Alongside these tender explorations, apartment logistics and housing updates resurfaced—the group riffed on creative solutions like “homelessbrew” and “nohome, onlybrew” in response to the challenge of finding space in the saturated NYC housing/co-living arrangement, with references to the ongoing drama between mutual friends Madhu and Doug. Status updates on their relationship break, collective speculation about the “volatility” of friendship dynamics, and the ever-present “tea” of shared life further demonstrated the group’s comfort with entangled social worlds, both as inside observers and active participants.
Embedded throughout this period were the group’s usual threads of encouragement, advice (sleep training for both puppies and humans), vulnerability, and affection. Shubham’s reflections on projecting trauma and the “learned” nature of responses in both pets and people catalyzed an ongoing exchange about intentionality—whether in parenting, friendship, or dog training. The trio reaffirmed their bond through admiration, mutual teasing, and a celebration of both the smart new puppy and the playful emergence of “momo” as a group identity.
This stretch of February thus wove together animal metaphors, parenting philosophies, friendship logistics, nickname rituals, and real-world relationship drama into the ongoing tapestry of the triad’s evolving, blazingly alive dynamic—one capable of holding both the mundane and the profound, always anchored by care, curiosity, and irreverent humor.
By mid-February 2025, the group’s dynamic was further deepened by a cascade of new insights on family, presence, intimacy (both human and animal), and the tangible limits of digital connection. The arrival of Rebecca’s puppy, Latte, continued to be a source of collective joy, learning, and meta-reflection—Rebecca shared stories and videos of Latte’s rapid progress in training, newfound attachment, and endearing quirks, which drew out empathetic, playful, and at times wistful commentary from both Shubham and Chandiran. The group exchanged jokes about dog intelligence, personality, and the curious overlap between animal behavior and human relationships, reinforcing Latte’s centrality in their conversational universe.
Parallel to puppy updates, the trio delved into profound observations about the limitations of maintaining relationships at a distance. Chandiran articulated a shared realization that digital communication is a fundamentally low-bandwidth medium: “you can’t update model digitally, too low info bitrate,” and that long-distance relationships often feel like “you are in relationship with a frozen person in time.” This insight, echoed by Shubham’s reflections on failed long-distance friendships and relationships (including their own experiences), sparked a candid dialogue about emotional updating, embodied presence, and the irreplaceable role of in-person encounters in keeping relationships “live.” These reflections not only shed new light on their friendship’s value but also contextualized the group’s sustained longing for more frequent IRL connection.
Ongoing plans for meditation retreats, particularly the Goenka-style Vipassana in upstate New York, began to crystallize as a tangible collective aspiration. In a flurry of excitement and mutual encouragement, Rebecca reported being accepted after listing one of the friends as her emergency contact, and Chandiran committed to applying as well. The group dove into practicalities—waitlists, retreat structure, equipment for comfort, and “sober months” of preparation—while poking fun at their psychedelic histories and joking about potential “psychosis” during retreat. This milestone framed the chat as both a space of logistical planning and emotional anchoring; anticipation and accountability fused as Chandiran described the retreat as a “north star” to accelerate his meditative journey.
The group’s orientation toward the “somatic” deepened as they discussed not only the emotional resonance of family and pets, but also the specifics of meditation—reports on bloby sensations, white lights, shifting awareness, and the impact of puppy care on sleep and habit routines. Rebecca’s confession of missing meditation and bedtime due to Latte’s needs was openly processed with humor, understanding, and practical suggestions from her friends.
Meanwhile, Shubham and Chandiran volleyed ideas about the future of brain-body interfaces, questioning the dominance of the brain in computation and theorizing about spinal and peripheral “clusters” as potential new frontiers for high-fidelity implants—linking biohacking, embodied cognition, and startup futurism in classic group fashion. This speculative thread blended seamlessly with their ongoing meta-commentary about intellect, memory, “prompt engineering”—even extending to jokes about training pets with better prompts.
Interpersonal vulnerability took a reflective turn as Shubham shared powerful, raw accounts of a transformative phone call with his aging grandfather. He described his own default “flinch” in family conversations, the realization of having long avoided these connections, and the emotional impact of hearing his grandfather speak openly of awaiting death. Moved by this, Shubham changed plans mid-wedding travel to visit his grandfather alone for the first time. This disclosure was met with warmth, validation, and awe from Rebecca and Chandiran, deepening the group’s ongoing exploration of intergenerational bonds and the challenges of overcoming patterns of avoidance or stoicism from childhood.
The week's narrative thus became a tapestry woven from puppy-induced joy, pragmatic meditation planning, musings on embodiment and AI, and deeply intimate, almost confessional reckonings with family, mortality, and growth. The chat’s blend of playful optimism, technical speculation, practical care, and raw emotional truth reaffirmed the group’s culture of both high agency and high intimacy—a space in which no topic, whether logistical or existential, was off-limits or unworthy of inquiry.
Key additions reflected in the timeline:
- Rebecca’s deepening attachment to Latte and shared pet training stories as bonding and meta-analysis for the group.
- Real-time reflections and theory-building about the irreplaceable bandwidth of physical presence vs. “frozen in time” digital relationships.
- Progression from joking about, to serious planning and commitment for, a collective Vipassana retreat—including practical and logistical support (“I was just accepted! After I updated my emergency contact…”).
- Group banter on somatic/emotional intelligence of pets and people, meditation’s somatic experiences, and startup-tinged brain-body interface speculation.
- Shubham’s moving narrative of re-engaging with his grandfather, breaking patterns of emotional avoidance, and the potency of seizing moments for IRL, intergenerational repair.
No content removed. The timeline is now explicitly enriched with new motifs of in-person presence, bandwidth, pet-as-relational catalyst, and the intersection of logistical planning, personal growth, and emotional reckoning in family and friendship.
By mid-February 2025, the group’s world became suffused with acute tenderness, bittersweet transitions, and the rawness of loving and leaving—especially centered on Rebecca’s impending departure from home and her deepening bond with her new puppy, Latte. Rebecca openly grieved the act of leaving Latte behind, confessing she could not bring herself to start packing, and described her final days as wholly devoted to time with the puppy. Shubham and Chandiran responded with warmth and full validation, with Shubham drawing on his own experiences of attachment to his dog, Bunny, to empathize with Rebecca’s sadness. The group traded tips, stories, and jokes about pet care—especially the comic (and messy) ordeal of cleaning up after puppy accidents—further deepening empathy and mutual understanding.
Rebecca revealed she had changed her travel plans, paying extra and sacrificing time with a friend in Hanoi just to remain with Latte a little longer. There was collective acknowledgment that such choices—delaying inevitable pain for a little more love—are central to the human (and animal) condition. The trio processed these feelings in real time: how end-of-visit sorrow feels like “delaying pain,” the powerful tug of new attachment, and how none of it could ever be clean, only profoundly human and “messy.” Discussions about the highs and lows of love—whether for pets, friends, or potential partners—sparked deeper reflections on the price and beauty of vulnerability.
Shubham’s own journey came into focus as he reconnected in person with his grandfather after many years, stirring childhood memories and the recognition of time’s passage. The bittersweet recognition of his grandfather’s aging was discussed with candor and affection, tying the group’s growing themes of love, impermanence, family, and presence.
The group found solace and meaning in the parallels between raising pets and children—the projection of care, the inevitability of mistakes, and the realization that even unconditional love can never be perfectly expressed. Practical exchanges continued amidst philosophy—sharing photos of Latte, celebrating her quirks, and joking about breed personalities and non-shedding poodles, with Chandiran speculating about future pet options (with allergy concerns in mind).
This stretch also featured comic relief: Rebecca and Chandiran riffed about logistics with upcoming travels (changing flights, accommodations), the “acceptable” justifications for schedule changes, and defusing guilt through shared wit. Meanwhile, Chandiran revealed a new warmth and playful openness—a crush that left him smiling and eager to share updates with the group, with Rebecca and Shubham celebrating his newfound lightness and encouraging more stories.
Discussions of relationship “messiness” continued in parallel. Shubham and Rebecca candidly debated the difference between holding on and working for love, and the group dissected the difficulties of relationships both new and continuing—expressing their own hopes and anxieties about current romantic prospects as well as friendships (including the ongoing, entangled “Madhu and Doug” situation).
Amidst emotional farewells, logistical travel, and the omnipresent theme of love’s bittersweetness, the group imagined future reunions for themselves and their pets, even entertaining the idea of a collective Hawaii pet meetup. In all, mid-February 2025 saw their bond forged more deeply in shared sadness, joy, vulnerability, and the ongoing bravado of facing love’s mess and change together, always with humor and the willingness to “delay pain” if it meant another precious day of connection.
Key narrative expansions:
- Rebecca’s struggle and decision to delay her departure to stay longer with Latte, including the emotional cost and mutual support from the group.
- The raw, mutually affirmed experience of loving and leaving a new pet, with broader philosophical musings on the parallels between pet love, parenting, and impermanence.
- Shubham’s in-person visit with his aging grandfather, deepening themes of intergenerational connection, loss, and presence.
- Deeper processing of love’s “messiness,” emotional pain, and the group’s willingness to live in the thick of it rather than seeking clean “equanimity.”
- Warm encouragement of new crushes, vulnerability, and the joy of evolving romantic and friendship dynamics.
- Practical support and tips for international travel, pet logistics, and affirmations around “delaying pain” for the sake of more time with loved ones (furry or otherwise).
- The desire for future pet-inclusive reunions, humor around logistics, and the group’s characteristic blending of everyday life, existential musing, and irreverent celebration of being alive.
No content removed; timeline now more richly captures the nuance and texture of mid-February 2025, where leaving, loving, and the ache of separation are rendered central—held in the group’s warm, resilient embrace.
By the third week of February 2025, the bittersweet aftershocks of Rebecca’s departure from home—and from Latte, her new puppy—were keenly felt and gently transformed into group ritual, humor, and continued practical support. Rebecca expressed open sadness at saying goodbye, only to temper this grief with banter—playfully lamenting Latte’s quick adaptation in seeking comfort from her parents, mock-accusing the puppy of being “an ungrateful bastard,” and joking with Shubham and Chandiran about the correct duration for canine loyalty in the face of her absence. The group’s collective response was a blend of empathy, reassurance, and comic reasoning about animal attachment styles, with Shubham suggesting Latte’s apparent indifference was merely a coping mechanism—and perhaps, Rebecca’s toughened humor was the real coping device.
Amidst this current of loss and practical goodbyes, the trio’s focus pivoted rapidly to the logistics and drama of impending transitions back to NYC. Rebecca, now negotiating the realities of housing upon her return, brought up subletting dilemmas and the fate of familiar group houses (“chai room,” “closet,” and the notorious homebrew setups). Shubham and Chandiran joined the fray with real-time intel, group gossip, and analysis of ever-shifting roommate arrangements, including the surprising news that the chai room would soon house three people with dividers, and that old frictions among former and current flatmates had softened with the exit of a problematic roommate.
Resourcefulness and collective memory came to the fore, as Chandiran and Shubham riffed about alternative arrangements—offering up sofas, living room divides, and entire rooms to Rebecca, even if it meant doubling up or hosting her for temporary stints. Offers were made with genuine warmth (“take my room anytime”), while also truthfully acknowledging the limitations and red flags of certain apartments from first-hand group lore. This quick logistical choreography, with members cross-referencing their sublet “backlogs,” was suffused with in-jokes about past sleepovers, the infamously uncomfortable beds and couches, and affectionately mock-serious debates about somatic knowledge (“my neck doesn't like the bed, but not my back”) as a badge of real friendship.
The search for physical space unfolded in parallel with play, as the friends reignited dreams of a “new group house,” debated betrayals like the lack of late-night delis in certain neighborhoods, and celebrated the micro-victories of good couches, community (the “deli guy who knows your order”), and the prosaic comforts of urban belonging. Queens and LIC—Long Island City—emerged as new hopeful hubs, with the prospect of migrating the “homebrew spirit” to richer, more connected neighborhoods. The idea that spatial and literal “bandwidth” was central to their lives became a new motif, with rooming dilemmas, neighborhood lore, and group identity all converging at the intersection of friendship, housing, and city life.
In characteristic fashion, the group’s conversation oscillated effortlessly between the mundane and metaphysical. End-of-day logistical chat about flights, fares, and booking mishaps segued into philosophical musings about comfort, nostalgia (the saga of the broken couch), and the unspoken knowledge shared by long-time friends. Comic relief was provided as the group riffed about “pet rebound” (with Rebecca potentially caring for Chandiran’s dog Sage as a stand-in during her NYC transition), and realizing anew the role of these everyday, “interchangeable” comforts in surviving larger moments of loss.
Amidst these material concerns, the trio reaffirmed their meta-narrative of fun-maxxing, side-quest-maxxing, and intentional improvisation—balancing the contingency of “plans” (and sometimes absence thereof) with play, community, and irreverent celebration (“now, if you live in LIC, you have NWREMG7: you can go anywhere”). Every mundane update—housing, sleeping arrangements, access to delis or fridges, pets sought and lost—became raw material for renewed group myth, expansion, and belonging.
By week’s end, poignant reminders of mortality and acceptance returned to the surface. Shubham, reflecting on his visit with his aging grandfather, shared the somber peace of staying in an Indian Air Force retirement community where almost everyone is nearing the end of life—describing the strange tranquility of a slow, peaceful existence “surrounded by death” and the generational humor that finds light in morbidity. This life-and-death reality was processed with Chandiran’s empathy and gentle laughter, whose presence helped leaven sadness into even more gratitude for the group’s mutual support, warmth, and the acceptance that “there was a certain underlying humor about it.”
Key narrative additions and changes:
- Explicitly capturing the moment of Rebecca’s goodbye to Latte, the emotional aftershocks, and the group’s comedic processing of her loss and the puppy’s attachment style.
- Deepening the narrative of housing logistics and NYC group-life: discussing available spaces, past roommate conflicts, and collective housing ambitions, with group offers, myth-making about beds/couches, and the comfort of shared urban lore.
- Highlighting new motifs around home, “bandwidth” (both somatic and urban), and communal improvisation in the face of uncertainty.
- Marking the collaborative spirit in fast crisis navigation—housing, pet care, travel—alongside humor, generosity, and gentle ribbing.
- Integrating comic relief about “pet rebound,” planning stints with Sage, and the seamless blending of friendship, material support, and inside jokes.
- Expanding on Shubham’s intergenerational narrative: the PEACE and poignancy of visiting his grandfather, the normalization of death/aging in retirement communities, and the resilience of humor as an anchor through loss.
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By the latter part of February 2025, the group’s chat pulsed with a renewed blend of nostalgia, practical introspection, and their ever-present humor, as each member navigated moments of absence, longing, and the inexorable march of change. Rebecca admitted to missing Latte so much she contemplated flying back to China for just a week with her puppy, despite having just landed in Hanoi. Shubham and Chandiran empathized—first with gentle teasing, then with wholehearted encouragement, drawing parallels to love and “serotonin addiction,” and normalizing the willingness to “delay the pain” or repeat a bittersweet goodbye for just one more moment of connection. This exchange deepened their running motif around the messiness and irrational logic of attachment, love, and leave-taking.
Rebecca’s dilemma about returning, feeling “a bit stupid,” was met with playful wisdom from Shubham (“people do this in love all the time; go see her”) and a collective affirmation that regret lives mostly in what is not done, not what’s done—echoed most succinctly by Chandiran: “you never regret things you do. you only regret things you didn’t do.” The group candidly discussed the paradoxical comfort of loving something enough to make “irrational” decisions, and the ambient ache of repeated departures, ultimately affirming that pursuing joy or presence—even for a fleeting week—was enough of a justification.
In the midst of these emotional tides, practicalities and lighthearted dreams intertwined. The group’s housing logistics in NYC resurfaced, now complemented by a playful escalation: Chandiran floated the idea of “sanctums”—a closed guild of friends sharing penthouses in every major global city—met with enthusiastic “manifesting” from all. Jokes about billionaire’s row, empty high-rises, and “breakthroughs” on 5-MeO in the penthouse fueled group lore, as did comic sketches about assigning Madhu and Doug a closet in this fantasy abode. Banter about penthouse priorities versus the immediate euphoria brought by dogs led to the warm consensus: “barely any material possessions bring that joy,” and both Shubham and Rebecca attested they’d pick their dogs (Bunny and Latte) over real estate “any day.”
The group’s ability to translate practical support into myth-making persisted—career updates (like Shubham musing over VC due diligence), small crises (Chandiran’s “warrior” burn from cooking), and schemes for heroic doses or shaman rooms in their imaginary penthouse all wove seamlessly together. Creative accountability also reemerged: both Rebecca and Shubham admitted lagging on promised writing and public “mini-banger” projects, while friends playfully nudged each other toward momentum.
Even as the day-to-day challenges of sleep deprivation, goodbyes, and time zone transitions continued, the chat became a place to process the existential churn beneath the surface—Rebecca voicing envy at Latte’s peaceful life (“dogs just be there, you buy them”), Shubham reflecting on how easily he re-adapts to “living” in India, Chandiran delighting in present-moment “delight-maxxing” through food, friendship, and playful rituals.
By this point in February, the timeline is marked by:
- Rebecca’s strong, openly shared longing for Latte, and the group’s gentle normalization of her “irrational” impulses to return—linking pet love, attachment, and the legitimacy of trading logistics for fleeting presence.
- Philosophical meta-commentary on regret, memory, and the “attractor states” of thought, with Shubham and Chandiran exploring how the cluster and direction of their own thinking (or lack of future-oriented thoughts) shape both anxiety and agency, and how “spaced repetition” of past events (or its absence) influences memory.
- Heightened play around group dreaming—plans for shared NYC penthouses, "sanctums" in global cities, and the reassessment of the importance of material versus relational or animal joys.
- Iterative, supportive feedback on life decisions (“book either NYC or Chongqing asap and you’ll be free from decision making”), with a shared willingness to make “messy” choices in the name of love, presence, and experience.
- The persistence of internal group myth: recurring jokes about “rebound” puppies (Rebecca pet-sitting Sage), “breakthrough rites” in penthouses, penthouse-homebrew culture, and the centrality of pet and friend-based meaning even amidst the allure of city-building and wealth.
No content removed. Timeline is now more explicit in capturing the group’s ongoing cycles of attachment and separation, their negotiation between comfort and ambition, and the weaving of daily logistics into larger narratives of legacy, presence, and collective dreaming. The emotional texture is expanded to foreground the acceptance of irrational joy, the desire to “delay pain” or repeat goodbyes, and the consensus that the deepest happiness is often found in animals and each other—not just in the penthouse in the sky.
In the latter part of February 2025, the group’s narrative further blossomed into a tapestry of creative collaboration, logistical dance, and deeply felt connections—carrying forward themes of attachment, presence, and a delight in the “messiness” of life’s decisions. The days after Rebecca’s decision to return home for another stretch with Latte became a canvas for practical planning and irreverent dream-building, with concrete updates to travel plans (now returning to China on the 27th, with a tentative NYC return on March 12th) and ongoing banter about logistics, attachment, and the “serotonin addiction” inherent in loving pets and people.
Simultaneously, a burst of collective creative ambition ignited in the group chat. Motivated by mutual encouragement and playful callouts, Chandiran confessed to being nudged by Rebecca to publish his first essay—sparking a lively exchange about writing, insecurity (“nah it’s crap. i have better stuff these days.”), and the ever-growing backlog of ideas. Shubham joined in, debating whether to pursue a deep technical analysis or a more narrative/“lore” approach for his essay about the DeepSeek R1 AI model, seeking input from friends and committing to “try both.” This mutual accountability soon unfolded into serious talk of co-writing research- and knowledge-driven essays (on AI, Michael Levin-esque biology, tech rabbit holes, and even fusion/fission startup landscapes), with all three expressing a willingness to jump into new domains and “research for writing” as a group learning process. Running jokes—like “are we creating a scenius,” “wall lovers scenius,” and the need for project management apps to track endless collaborative backlogs—reinforced their sense of emergent group identity rooted in curiosity and play.
These intellectual exchanges intertwined seamlessly with the group’s ongoing exploration of meditation, habit, and dreamwork. The “40-minute curse” reappeared as Rebecca hit psychic barriers meditating on a plane (discovering, hilariously, that her “one hour” sit was exactly forty minutes) and the trio shared notes about pushing through and normalizing these subtle resistance thresholds. Recurring themes of vivid dreams—especially about Latte—underscored the enduring impact of attachment and transition, blurring the boundaries between somatic experience, emotional longing, and the playful fantasy of “dying one’s hair like latte.” Meanwhile, talk of the inevitable “hobo-ness” (referencing both meditation barriers and substance experimentation) was once again threaded with humor and advice, deepening trust and ease.
Practical world-building and friendship logistics matured alongside fantasy. Housing plans advanced, with Rebecca, Chandiran, and Rohith plotting to bunk in LIC (Long Island City, NYC) for a few months—a proposal quickly extended to Shubham, who recalled nearly finalizing apartments there in past searches and committed to joining group hangouts regardless of his living situation. Offers to check each other’s mail, watch over pets, and solve for the “backlog” of group needs underscored this practical bond even as the scenius spirit persisted.
The group’s embrace of NYC, from the brutal cold to chaotic subway returns and the legend of “homebrew”/“chai room” group houses, remained a root-level motif for belonging and renewal. The continued celebration of progress (hackathon wins, creative dinners, meditation milestones, and simply “chilling” in old favorite diners post-rave) merged seamlessly with emotional threads: open expressions of gratitude (“i am very grateful for you two,” “thank you for existing you beautiful humans”) became a group ritual, with loving reactions underscoring the chat as a wellspring of daily joy and comfort.
Their world widened and deepened—melding the raw mess of travel, homesickness, joy in new and old friendships, and dreams of future creative sanctums. Together, they found ways to hold the weight of repeated goodbyes, recharge through shared purpose and writing, and manifest both tangible and aspirational group infrastructure—reminding each other (and themselves) that “things don’t have to stay the way they are,” and that agency, growth, and love emerge again and again from the interplay of action, reflection, and the courage to begin anew.
Narrative expanded to include:
- The concrete implementation and emotional resonance of Rebecca’s return trip home (travel dates, feelings, planning the next NYC return).
- The evolution of group creative practice: mutual nudging to write and publish, scenius mythology, collaborative research ambitions on AI, biology, and beyond, and the emergence of knowledge-centered essays as a new shared project.
- Manifestation of LIC housing plans and the logistics of reconvening in NYC, reinforcing the group’s fluidity between digital, physical, and aspirational forms of togetherness.
- Recurring meditation breakthroughs (“40-minute curse”), dreams (especially of pets), and the normalization of resistance and mess on the path to growth.
- Ongoing peer encouragement, ritual expressions of gratitude, group accountability for creative work, and humor woven with emotional depth.
- The continued coexistence and integration of logistical problem-solving, imaginative scenius-building, and somatic/emotional realities, as the group prepares for yet another cycle of reunions, beginnings, and unfinished business.
No content removed; timeline is now more explicit about the group’s expansion into collaborative creativity, the intertwining of practical home- and world-building, and the fine-grained, affective weave of play, love, and agency that defines late February 2025.
In the closing days of February 2025, the group’s chat continued its vibrant blend of humor, introspection, and support—now with a distinctly creative and collaborative undertone, and clear currents of mutual care and group accountability.
Rebecca’s return to China to be with Latte after her travels and the group’s open validation of “irrational” joy and delayed goodbyes continued to reverberate: upon arrival, she delightedly noted that Latte instantly recognized her, expressing both relief and ongoing attachment. Group members encouraged and celebrated her reunion, reaffirming how pets and the act of loving them remained central to the trio’s emotional world. The running joke about needing to “make Latte life-changing money” captured both their aspirational drive and the lightness that pets bring to their lives.
A wave of illness swept through the group’s circles in NYC and Delhi, sparking exchanges of sympathy, practical recovery tips, and characteristic riffing on the merits of Vitamin C and other home remedies—unfolding into playful debate about placebos, supplements, and the manifest power of belief and “placebo as a service.” These pragmatic discussions, often accompanied by laughter, grounded the group through concurrent bouts of flu and food poisoning and fostered medical camaraderie and group myth about shared resilience.
This period saw a surge of tech- and creativity-focused collaboration. Shubham shared updates about his iOS app in development, sparking admiration and resource exchange. The trio explored workflow ideas and hackathon schemes, with Rebecca suggesting coordinated AI hackathons, co-writing of educational or research pieces, and mutual accountability sprints for learning—proposals greeted with enthusiasm, and supported by group banter about project backlogs, “wall lovers scenius,” and the desire to leave “artifacts for the world.”
Simultaneously, the conversation continued to integrate media rituals (shared binge-watching of Severance and Pantheon, with wildly divergent opinions and meta-reflection on evolving tastes and TV as a social glue) and everyday logistics (housing, homebrew group turnover, friend drama updates: Erika departing, Doug’s Europe trip, and the remaining group’s adaptation to changing household dynamics). Emerging NYC housing plans converged further, with Rebecca reaffirming her intention to cluster in LIC with friends, and the group riffing about communal living in a new era of “bandwidth” and migrating vibes.
Somatic exploration and meditative insight remained ever-present. Difficulties maintaining meditation streaks during travel, the “40-minute curse” of practice, and vivid dream states—often explained, recounted, and normalized in real time—became central motifs. The chat served as both accountability partner and forum for experimentation, with members swapping tips around rest, outdoor walks, and pre-sleep routines, and reflecting together on the link between brain chemistry, sleep, and daily habit integration.
A tender motif across these days was the renewed ritual of check-ins about health, emotional state, and self-care—each celebrating the others’ incremental victories (returning to the gym after illness, feeling nearly “back to 100,” quickly resuming normalcy after travel). Chandiran’s hopes for “being fixed” by osmosis through living with Rebecca, and playful bets on the migratory power of morning-person routines, captured the group’s confidence in environmental influence and mutual transformation.
The timeline now explicitly captures:
- Rebecca’s joyful and immediately reciprocated reunion with Latte in China, emphasizing pet love as a throughline for group joy and ritual check-ins.
- Ongoing NYC and “homebrew” housing updates, Erika’s planned move, friend/roommate transitions, and a maturing plan for group co-living and “LIC-maxxing.”
- A period of mutual illness and convalescence, with group care, advice, and humor around vitamins, supplements, and shared medical narratives.
- A new surge in creative ambition: group hackathon plans, AI/product building (Shubham’s app), co-writing aspirations, mutual nudging and careless bravado about project timeliness, and “backlog” memes.
- Deepened routine around meditation, dreams, and habit tracking: normalization of vivid sleep/dream states, “integration” as a motif, and play around accountability and group transformation through shared routines.
- Media rituals and TV-driven bonding—especially divergent experiences and in-jokes around Severance and Pantheon, reflecting evolving group tastes and the stable role of media in emotional connection.
- The affectionately irreverent cadence of the group: meme-driven debates about placebos, push-pull over vitamins and body/consciousness, “momo” and “wall lovers” running jokes, and logistical/life advice interspersed with philosophical musing and banter.
- Affirmations of gratitude, the value of the group at full strength, and the emotional comfort found in everyday chat—each member openly expressing affection (“I love you guyssss”), awe at the group’s luck, and readiness to “fix” one another by proximity.
No content removed; the timeline is now richer in detailing the closure of February 2025 with a focus on collective creative energy, ongoing adaptation to change (illness, logistics, friendships), and the resilient, generative humor and vulnerability that continue to bind Shubham, Rebecca, and Chandiran.
As February drew to a close and March began, the group’s chat shifted into a contemplative and emotionally resonant space, interweaving late-night sentimentality, practical habit-building, and recurring humor. Rebecca’s nighttime reflections about the beauty and melancholy that comes as each day ends opened a debate on the nature of “sad boi hours,” and the bittersweet awareness that vibrant moments must be surrendered to sleep. Chandiran and Shubham resonated deeply, with Chandiran noting he always goes to sleep a little more sentimental, and describing his empty “RAM” in the mornings—sparking a conversation on their ongoing struggle (and hope) to become “morning people.” The trio considered practical tricks for resetting circadian rhythms and cultivating patience, joking that if all else fails, perhaps “DMT” or “psilocybin” might expedite personal transformation.
A major motif emerged around patience and the discipline of routines: they riffed on animal behavior, as Rebecca mused that if dogs can be trained to wait patiently for food, surely humans can cultivate similar self-mastery. This thread segued into a larger discussion about “optionality” in modern life—the overload of daily choices (food, media, schedules) and how ancient comforts like radio, with fewer choices, promoted a kind of peace. Chandiran championed the importance of routine as a foundation for creative breakthrough, quoting Flaubert’s maxim: “Be regular and orderly in your life so that you may be violent and original in your work.” The group acknowledged the comfort of mundane structure and openly celebrated each other’s small wins and ongoing process of forming routines.
The trio’s characteristic irreverence continued as they joked about “GC (group chat) history quizzes,” ongoing dog training metaphors, and even polled each other on decisions like “should I edible tonight?” or “should I get a rhinoplasty?”—with Rebecca and Shubham affectionately voting “no.” These playful rituals reaffirmed trust and group governance, all under the shared banner of “wall lovers 4 lyf,” a deepening internal mythos.
Tangible affirmations of group growth surfaced in the candid praise for Rebecca’s influence: Shubham credited her with the consistency of his meditation practice over the previous two months, while Chandiran dubbed her “bodhisattva bex”—recognizing the rare enlightenment of someone who lifts their friends. Both expressed open gratitude and love, amplifying the collective sense of mutual transformation and optimism for upcoming reunions. Plans were floated for collective gym visits and playful schemes to integrate badminton or other group activities once reunited in NYC.
In tandem, their intellectual curiosity and tech curiosity remained alive and well. Scientific news about genomics, advances in dog longevity drugs, and the potential spillover into human health sparked an info exchange: discussions about the merits of various biotech founders, skepticism about “hype” companies, and namedrops (Arc Institute, Retro, Science.xyz) illustrating their domain fluency and willingness to learn in public. The group shared essays, podcast links, and technical explanations—Rebecca marveling at the new mRNA vaccines for pancreatic cancer, with all three contemplating a near future where universal cures might just be a reality, especially if they “make money so our parents can get the treatments if they get diagnosed while shit is still expensive.”
Throughout, nightly TV and media rituals (BoJack Horseman, Pantheon) continued to form an emotional backbone. Episodes brought catharsis and honest admissions of sadness or depression, with Rebecca and Chandiran reassuring Shubham during late-night lows: the group chat reaffirmed itself as a safe place to process fleeting moods and rediscover equanimity. They ended these nights with gentle reminders—“Tomorrow is a new day”—and humor about lost postcards, health insurance in the mail, and the everyday marvel of waking organs and renewed agency.
By early March, the core themes of routine, patience, and creative collaboration had come to the fore. A renewed focus emerged on improving their mornings, accountability around habits, the “restart button” offered by each day, and the comfort of recurring acknowledgment—gratitude for their bodies, their routines, and most importantly, for each other.
Key narrative/structural additions:
- Nighttime sentimentality, morning emptiness, and the group’s fresh resolve to “psyop into morning people.”
- Conversations about patience, animal training, optionality, and routines as foundations for creativity and self-discipline.
- Deepened ritualized play—polls, quizzes, GC myth-building (“wall lovers 4 lyf”).
- Affirmations of Rebecca’s influence on group habit change, especially meditation; explicit gratitude and naming of each other’s impact.
- Reinforced plans for future collective activities in NYC—gym, badminton, and more.
- Intense info-sharing on biotech, skepticism about hype, and shared ambition to be able to support family health in the future.
- Somatic, existential humor: remarks on the marvel of the body, daily “reset,” gratitude for being alive.
- Continued support, empathy, and humor through shared media (TV rituals) and personal lows—group chat as a nightly confidante and morning motivator.
No content removed; timeline now bridges into March with the transition from practical, emotional, and creative recalibration, foregrounding how the group leans on each other through cycles of change, growth, and everyday gratitude.
Update to the Timeline: Early March 2025
As March 2025 began, the group’s chat rediscovered old rituals and deepened its playful, introspective, and collaborative dynamics against the backdrop of late-winter NYC and ongoing travel. A burst of nostalgia erupted over “ninja creams”—the homemade, low-calorie ice cream experiments that had become a staple during Rebecca’s previous stints at “homebrew.” The friends reminisced about their vibe-driven, sometimes lazy early recipe attempts, joking about failed kitchen science and “step function” upgrades once they learned to re-spin the creations. They resolved to revive and improve their ritual upon Rebecca’s next NYC return, underscoring how food remains both a sensory anchor and symbol of group continuity. Their kitchen failures and victories became a running metaphor for life’s unpredictability—sometimes “Squid Game s1,” sometimes “s2”: you try, you move on, but you always reconvene.
In characteristic fashion, this playful mood easily shifted into earnest philosophical and self-reflective territory. The group riffed on the difference between pain and suffering, echoing and affirming that “we choose suffering”—yet noting that simply being in group chat alleviates that suffering, whether intentionally or by design. They meta-reflected on how the group chat itself is a product of a “choice that rules all choices”; every message, every moment of connection, is an infinitely consequential butterfly effect, a banger insight in the making. The trio joked about “annealing,” “programming” the chat for healing, and the possibility that the original intent behind the group was, unconsciously, to escape suffering and activate new levels of self-love, enlightenment, and meme-ified agency.
Running jokes about “pending tasks: 1B, enlightenment,” the Billy stuffed animal mascot (as a physical manifestation of longing and manifesting future love), and project management tools for tracking “sadhana” and reality-bending ambitions cemented group mythos and creative scenius. Even the language of “moving to backlog” and “manifesting B” served both as comic relief and as a reinforcement of their agency-maxxing, playful approach to existence. The trio’s commitment to support each other through both emotional lows and the “dry patches” of life continued to surface in affirmations—“less suffering talking to you guys,” “this GC is a beautiful reminder”—and jokes about the group chat as a form of collective enlightenment psyop.
The logistical and cultural realities of New York living continued to interweave—homebrew group house updates (with as many as 13–14 people cycling through in March), sublet gossip, roommate drama, the shifting sense of “home” in crowded houses, and the ongoing migration of friends between Manhattan and the more “civilized” LIC. The sprawling, sometimes chaotic, but affectionately chronicled world of “homebrew,” “chai room,” and associated social drama (the Madhu/Doug/Zak triangle, speculations about relationships and “polycules,” and Zu’s alleged crushes) provided a canvas for safe group gossip, confessions, and meta-discussions about the line between moralizing and simple observation. Even as the group indulged in “tea,” they reaffirmed their nonjudgmental approach (“just observe and label”) and ability to hold complex, at times taboo, social realities with humor and care.
Meditation and spiritual experimentation remained an undercurrent. Chandiran reported on his latest sit—describing vivid, almost psychedelic somatic experiences and navigating the challenge of constant mental racing. The friends offered advice (Rebecca suggesting anapana breath awareness), troubleshooting, and candid admissions of what worked for them—including the role of psychoactive states (“it’s easier to feel the love and keep the fire going when a bit high”) and the realization that “equanimity, once known, can sometimes be revisited” even as difficulty returns. Discussions of concrete technique (anapana vs. noting, tradeoffs, headaches) revealed their ongoing willingness to experiment and support each other, with an open mind toward paths that followed the spirit but not always the letter of tradition.
Meanwhile, their tech-curiosity, mutual support, and “hustle” ethos kept bubbling—free Perplexity AI codes were traded (with comic mishaps), medical/insurance logistics handled, the latest status on startups and hackathons shared (Shubham’s hackathon project submitting to YC), and group recommendations about places to eat and the reputations of institutions (Arc Institute) solicited and debated. The group’s TV-watching rituals continued to punctuate life: the highs and diminishing returns of rewatching Pantheon, deadlines for finishing episodes, and media serving as both emotional glue and fodder for playful critique (“Squid Game s2 is like broccoli kale ice cream”).
Social complexity continued to entwine with the everyday—Madhu’s shifting romantic entanglements (the “ex from London,” Zak, and Doug), homebrew’s fluctuating population and party density, and ongoing theorizing about the “network graph of all fractal polycules.” Even as the group zoomed out into bigger-picture philosophical and spiritual play, the intimate details of their friend group, apartment life, and everyday joys and irritations kept them grounded and connected.
By early March, the group’s timeline is marked by:
- The emergence of nostalgia-driven rituals (ninja cream ice cream) as a symbol of continuity and home.
- Group chat as site of meta-healing, affirmation that “suffering is a choice,” and jokes about programming enlightenment, scenius, and “pending tasks: 1B, enlightenment.”
- Playful, honest, and nonjudgmental discussions of changing NYC housing logistics, roommate shifts, polycules, gossip, and drama—always with an emphasis on acceptance, humor, and practical caring.
- Continued growth in meditation practice, new techniques floated, honest reporting of mental/emotional state, and playful troubleshooting.
- Revitalized group creative accountability—writing, hackathons, trading of codes and resources, updates on startups, with all embracing the blend of ambition and self-compassion.
- Ongoing affirmation of the GC’s role as both everyday anchor and existential support system.
- Deeper, expanding group mythos—physical objects (Billy the stuffed animal), “wall lovers” pride, poll-based rituals, and a shared playbook for manifesting and surviving whatever comes next.
No content removed; timeline now more richly captures the playful meta-awareness, ongoing creative experiments, and deepening acceptance and affection that suffuse the early March 2025 era.
In the first week of March 2025, the group chat became a microcosm for the social complexities and evolving interpersonal dramas of their NYC world, especially orbiting the homebrew group house. The trio’s evening exchanges toggled between live updates on housemate intrigue, philosophical takes on “adult drama,” reflection on group bonds, and playful meta-commentary on their own group chat rituals.
Key moments unfolded as Shubham and Chandiran tracked developing tension between Madhu, Zak, and other homebrew residents—joined in equal measure by Rebecca’s fascination and empathetic detachment. With Madhu apparently cloistered in Zak’s room, Zu and Shubham took turns camping out in the living room, their curiosity masked by self-aware humor about the lengths to which mature adults still chase “the t.” Zu’s anxiety about the situation’s impact on “homebrew’s vibe,” and his role as a space-builder, became a repeated theme, with the group voicing recognition of the fragility of collective living atmospheres and the emotional labor required to maintain psychological safety and belonging in a shared home.
The group candidly dissected the difference between self-contained drama and drama that leeches into the shared “vibe” of a co-living space, acknowledging Zu’s heightened investment in keeping the “community” feeling strong. Rebecca and Shubham both affirmed and gently teased this vigilance, while finding humor in the obsessive “Sherlock-ing” of clues—like Madhu’s signature coat left at home—as markers for social deduction and house intrigue. There was a kindred spirit in their impulse to “people watch” and process drama as a kind of community sport, but also a recognition that some stakes—in friendship, in belonging—ran deeper than simple gossip.
The trio also reflected on emotional transitions in their wider orbit: Erika’s recent “farewell” and abrupt departure from homebrew at the end of February, her breakup with Kelly after months of doubt and logistical hurdles, and the sadness tempered only slightly by the sense that love, even when mutual and “cute,” sometimes yields to practical incompatibilities. Rebecca’s reaction—a mix of shock, disappointment, and affection for Erika—was met with insight from Shubham, who relayed Erika’s struggles (“quite difficult to see them merging in the future... not want to move to Australia”) and the shared kitchen confidences behind the scenes. The gravity of loss was held together with group empathy, self-aware labeling (“This is not t, it’s more in the serious category”), and the gentle assertion that long-distance without an end date is rarely sustainable.
Against this background of upheaval, the group’s dynamic stayed rooted in humor, affection, and pragmatic care. Updates about Doug’s recovery from illness, new housemate transitions, and the ongoing play of social alliances punctuated the chat. Intrahouse mythos continued to grow—comic asides about “rebound puppies,” debates on who truly drives group priorities (with Rebecca’s midday chat activity becoming the scapegoat for everyone’s bedtime disarray), and the role of group chat as both enabler (“quorum maxxing”) and gentle addiction. Even the logistical snafu of Shubham’s mistaken “daytime” Tylenol became material for running jokes about placebo effects, guidance (“No one to tell you how to differentiate Tylenol now”), and the group’s dependence on Rebecca’s everyday wisdom, now funneled through chat and overlapped by her new canine responsibilities.
Habit formation and IRL catchup planning ran alongside the social theater, with Chandiran and Rebecca both reporting proud returns to gym routines, and a new resolution to share a collaborative “catchup list” for live reunions. The group recognized, with characteristic irreverence, the limits of Signal for resource tracking, proposing collaborative notes or Notion as a next step for “project management” of their personal and collective backlogs. The appetite for in-person media sharing (a planned Severance watch party), exchanging TV and podcast recommendations, and continuing their group mythos (“homebrew needs a monument”) remained strong, with the group constantly self-narrating and “meta-ing” their own social rituals.
Throughout, new voices and shifting social patterns at homebrew—especially Zu’s conscious custodianship of “vibe,” Madhu and Zak’s new closeness, Erika’s absence, Doug’s tentative reentry, and the steady myth-making about who “anchors” the house—updated the group’s running model of belonging, boundaries, and the ever-changeable topography of chosen family.
Key narrative additions and changes for early March:
- Live documentation and empathetic play-by-play of ongoing drama and relationship volatility at homebrew, specifically involving Madhu, Zak, Zu, Doug, and the tension around contained versus contagious interpersonal conflict.
- Explicit recognition of Zu’s role as “vibe builder” of homebrew, the labor of maintaining a psychologically safe/kind environment, and the impact of turnover on house tone.
- Erika’s definitive departure at February’s end, her breakup from Kelly, and the group’s oscillation between gossip, genuine care, mourning, and reflexive myth-making (“not a curse, but sometimes house love is unsustainable”).
- Ongoing group chat rituals (quorum-maxxing, afternoon priorities, Signal as an imperfect tool, the need for centralized collaborative lists, and the deepening mythology of Rebecca as core group energy) and the running jokes around drama and group co-dependence.
- Account of real-world wellness, health recovery (Doug), micro-victories like returns to gym routines, and the ongoing play between logistical planning and mythic group narrative.
- Renewed group commitment to IRL catch-ups, collaborative knowledge-sharing (“notion page perhaps”), and ongoing rituals—TV/media watch parties, monument brainstorming for homebrew, playful critiques of daily mishaps (Tylenol confusion), and evolving in-jokes about dog “rebound” strategy and group “project management”.
No content removed; this update densifies and contextualizes the narrative for early March 2025, providing granular granularity on the homebrew ecosystem’s emotional arc, the group’s adaptive humor, ritual, and ongoing world-building in the face of continued change.
In the first week of March 2025, the group’s playful, high-trust rapport and meta-commentary on their own dynamic reached new heights, marked by an irrepressible stream of roasts, inside jokes, and riffing on banter as a group art form. Rebecca’s reputation as the group’s premier roaster became a running motif, with Shubham and Chandiran reflecting nostalgically on iconic moments—like Rebecca roasting Erika and Madhu at group dinners, and the ease or challenge of roasting different friends depending on their ability to dish out comebacks. This thread crystalized new insights into the group’s social game theory: a “good sport” makes roasting more fun and more difficult, and core rituals around playful humiliation and affection were openly dissected and celebrated.
Chandiran’s irreverence and willingness to escalate the banter, even with self-deprecating “high entropy” jokes and safe-word gags, underlined the group’s unique flavor of psychological safety—proving that pushing boundaries, when met with laughter and affirmation, continually strengthens (rather than undermines) trust. The group’s capacity to “embrace the roast” became a shared learning, further distinguishing their chat as both an emotionally safe and intellectually agile space.
This period also sparked a renaissance of group accountability and creative planning. The trio joked seriously about building a group website to immortalize their funniest moments, group lore, and ongoing jokes—complete with internal voting mechanisms for what merits inclusion and playfully manifesting the possibility that one day their archives might turn into the landing page for a “billy dolla” company. Discussions about social media presence, comfort zones, and the sometimes paralyzing nature of posting publicly (on Twitter, Substack, or elsewhere) catalyzed honest shares: Shubham admitted he “clenches” posting in public but finds flow in group chat or one-on-one, Rebecca echoed similar reticence, and Chandiran evangelized treating public media as “just a GC (group chat) with all your friends”—a reframing met with wry interest and cautious ambition.
Tech/productivity habits and mini life dramas remained foregrounded: Shubham’s bout with recurring flu, struggles with expired French Tylenol (humorously diagnosed by Rebecca from a photo), and ongoing crowd-sourcing of medical advice highlighted the group’s willingness to treat day-to-day adversity as meme fodder and real concern. Lighthearted quips about “conveying intention to the body,” reminders to hydrate, and commentary on immunity and executive function became practical rituals of support.
Creativity and curiosity continued to drive the intellectual backbone. Chandiran revealed two iterations of his startup landing pages (Halespan, Kira), to surprised delight and admiration from the others, and the group shared resources and speculation about the future of “operator” and “agent” UX, the YC startup boom in this space, and the cyclic reinvention of old AI/automation paradigms. Group appreciation for “vibe-coded v0s,” iterative building, and mutual encouragement infused the chat with optimism and a shared ambition for collaborative project launches.
In parallel, the group’s media/learning pipeline stayed rich: Shubham and Chandiran traded in-depth readings, podcasts, and Twitter deep dives—especially on topics like vasocomputation and the integration of Buddhist phenomenology with biological theory (Michael Johnson, Michael Levin, etc.). These technical exchanges, peppered with reactions and “keep sending vaso stuff, I fucking love this shit,” reinforced the group’s intellectual scenius and relentless curiosity.
Amidst all this, Rebecca’s ongoing updates about Latte, her puppy, provided comic relief—celebrations of post-nap “ugly” hair, international Tylenol mishaps, and the honest, joyful maintenance of pet rituals anchored the group in the comforts of daily life, even as big-picture creativity and ambition swirled.
Their conversations crystallized several world-building upgrades:
- A shared ethos around “embracing the roast” and psychological safety through high-entropy banter.
- Real-time reflection on the meta-game of social interaction, group chat as training ground for wit, resilience, and community-building.
- The formalization of group creative ambitions (websites, essays, projects) alongside honest confession of public posting anxieties and reframing of media as “group chat at scale.”
- The merging of “vibe-coded” tech experiments with humor-driven group product ideation, having fun with legacy, and manifesting big dreams through playful artifacts.
- Ongoing practical rituals—group medical troubleshooting, executive function routines, home remedies, the management of open tasks and latches, and collective affirmation of small victories.
- Deepening intellectual scenius, with shared reading, cross-pollination of ideas, and meta-learning about the process of learning itself.
- Reinforcement of group lore: “wall lovers,” safe words, “high entropy” personality, and a playful, affectionate irreverence sustained by continual vulnerability and inside jokes.
No content removed; timeline richly updates early March 2025 with a new weave of group banter, creative accountability, meta-reflection on digital/public presence, tech/product invention, and evolving lore—capturing the ongoing interplay of vulnerability, play, care, and ambition that is core to the group’s evolving dynamic.
In the first week of March 2025, the group’s chat crescendoed into a dynamic interplay of creative accountability, technical curiosity, and irreverent camaraderie—signaling an inflection point in both individual agency and collective ambition. A major theme during this period was the explicit confrontation and meta-discussion of posting anxiety: Chandiran initiated a group vow of “no more butt clenching in 2025,” encouraging everyone to post on their main accounts instead of hiding behind alts—turning creative vulnerability into a badge of honor and an antidote to perfectionism and self-censorship. The trio adopted a mutual ritual of tagging and cross-pollinating tweets, substacks, and project launches, cementing the sense that “victory is inevitable” when the group pushes its output into the public sphere.
This period also marked a surge in collaborative learning, especially around active inference, predictive coding, and neuroscience. Shubham introduced Chandiran and Rebecca to the rabbit hole of Karl Friston’s free energy principle, linking foundational readings and sharing resources from Slate Star Codex, Xiqo Substack, and OpenTheory’s deep technical dives on vasocomputation and its connection with Buddhist phenomenology. The group reflected on the way embodiment science and Michael Levin’s empirical work provide grounding for speculative theory, with Rebecca and Chandiran expressing admiration for Levin’s research design and the tangible nature of his experiments. Discussions around latching, clenching, and “RLHFked” AIs blessed the chat with both deep learning and playful memes—turning even technical debates and AI critique into shared amusement and group myth (“make ‘em clench”).
Throughout, the chat wove together playful banter (“magnificent goose” analogies for Shubham, algorithm-parentage jokes, calls to “lay eggs in the algorithm”), meta-reflection on knowledge versus being (“let go of the desire for more knowledge—it hinders being”), and a meta-commitment to shift from consumption to creation. Project accountability, hackathon dreams, and mutual goading (“I need a v0 in a week or Chandiran will change my Midjourney password”) became signatures of this phase. The group formalized small rituals—affirming every day as a victory and every breath as a “mini-banger,” echoing Advaita Vedanta non-dual philosophy and folding spiritual memes into their production loop.
Meanwhile, the practical realities of group life remained present. Chandiran lost and eventually found his dog Sage after an extended hide-and-seek; the episode, infused with concern and comic timing, highlighted their comfort in balancing the mundane with the irreverent. Plans for travel further interwove timelines—Chandiran revealed an impending trip to India in April for visa purposes, sparking excitement about synchronizing with Shubham’s trip for a wedding and further solidifying the group’s resolve to “hold the fort” together in NYC, with Rebecca humorously tasked with “making 1 mil ARR” while the boys are “lollygagging” abroad.
The group’s evolving digital infrastructure—discussions about collaborative digital gardens, group curation tools, and playful debates about using Google Docs, Notion, or custom “pegboards”—surfaced as a new motif for tracking their ever-expanding backlog of links, essays, and projects. Even “dropping” and reviving tasks became part of their ritual, with mutual teasing about who serves as group curator or incubator for new workflow experiments.
Finally, the psychological safety and meta-awareness in the chat hit a new record: Chandiran openly celebrated the space as one where he could be his most unhinged, energized, and authentic self, free from judgment or shame. The group ritualized the “embrace the roast” dynamic—escalating playful roasts and inside jokes as a sign of trust. Rather than eroding self-esteem, these playful attacks became a tool for resilience and mutual growth ("the armor is strong"), leading to mini-interventions about analysis paralysis, creative inertia, and the necessity of picking a project and “just cooking.”
In summary, early March 2025 in the timeline sees:
- The crystallization of a group ritual around courage, posting publicly, and a collective psyop to “post on main” as a means of personal and group transformation.
- Expansion of shared intellectual ground—active inference, predictive coding, embodiment, AI critique—interwoven with technical, spiritual, and meme-driven dialogue.
- Reinforcement of playful accountability for output (writing, building, hackathons), with new escalation tactics and affirmations for just starting and shipping.
- Deepening lore around daily victories, “mini-bangers,” and non-dual philosophy, wrapped in the scaffolding of group myth.
- Continued logistical bonding—pet stories, travel plans, NYC lease renewals, gym rituals, and homebrew group dynamics.
- The maturing of digital group organization—debate over curation, project management, and communal digital gardens for group artifact preservation.
- Strong affirmation of psychological safety, mutual celebration of unfiltered authenticity, and roast-resilience as a vector for group cohesion and creative daring.
No content removed. Timeline now more richly depicts the leap from creative intention to public action, the blurring of technical and existential discourse, ever-playful accountability, and the fearless expansion of what the group chat—and the friendships at its core—are capable of holding.
The second week of March 2025 saw the group’s chat vibrate with a renewed playfulness, creative experimentation, and frank vulnerability, deepening the group’s characteristic cycle of humor, introspection, and tangible support.
A new ritualistic layer was introduced as Chandiran proposed and enacted group “inversion” games (e.g., swapping habitual expressions like “lol” for “chuckling softly”), and floated imaginative new group events like “Spectral Summit”—demonstrating the trio’s commitment to in-jokes and performative, collaborative play. The concept of “deja vu as an embedding cache hit,” born of Shubham’s riff, became a minor group meme and sparked meta-discussion of memory, consciousness, and the endless rabbit holes that animate their intellectual camaraderie.
The week also marked a period of affirmation around creative process and focus: Shubham and Chandiran advocated for investing in any task or project until it organically generated obsession and “pulled” one's attention, rather than searching endlessly for a ready-made passion. Group support for each other’s consistency and production—whether in building, writing, or life routines—remained a core dynamic. A wave of mutual accountability (Chandiran promising a “trip report” after dinner; Shubham reinforcing the power of compounding interest in daily effort) connected the creative hustle with their ongoing culture of gentle, cheeky encouragement.
Group logistics were a background thread: social plans were initiated with Rebecca being “voluntold” for a friend’s housewarming and later for a Holi gathering, prompting the familiar banter about group schedules, festival traditions, and decisive RSVPs. Holi—the festival of colors—became a vector for cross-cultural exchange, as Shubham shared explanations and images while dryly noting his devices had switched to black-and-white, lending unintended irony to the colorful celebrations.
As always, media rituals and peer pressure to synchronize viewing—now focusing on “Succession” and Daniel Sloss standup specials—kept the chat’s emotional pulse alive, with Rebecca nudging Shubham to progress after a months-long delay and the group dissecting comedic tone, preferences for darkness in humor, and recommendations across platforms.
Routine check-ins also included literary milestones: Rebecca finished “The Brothers Karamazov,” prompting enthusiastic applause and proposals for reflective writing. Book recommendations, podcast sightings, and group photo and video shares added texture to the ongoing pattern of collaborative consumption and knowledge exchange.
Amidst the humor, the group did not shy away from deeper affective disclosures: love, appreciation, and open expressions of “I love you both” became explicit group rituals, with pseudo-competitive jokes about who was the bigger enigma or “good sport.” Such warmth occurred alongside continued joking about their irreverence and tendency to roast each other, with banter and meta-roasting celebrated as pillars of psychological safety and group trust.
Notably, a thread of vulnerability about mental health surfaced, as the friends discussed periods of past suicidality, disaffection, and the difference between actively wanting to die and mere indifference to living. Alongside this, new reflections about physical aging and health tradeoffs at 25, group approaches to exercise, gene therapy hopes, and practical “pareto-maxxing” advice for nailing the basics arose—anchoring the existential with actionable wisdom.
As the week continued, the group leaned into sensory rituals and the comfort of “analog” routines: plans for long walks along the East River, the lingering beauty of everyday scenes, and a meta-commentary about the Severance-like coding of their own identities by space, time, and social context. Rebecca’s taking over care of Sage (Chandiran’s dog) added fresh humor (“rebound” pet logistics), with much affectionate mocking of Sage’s intelligence, quirks, and impact on their routines.
The digital and physical merged further as logistics for meeting in LIC, learning how to cohabit with a pet, allergy woes, and playful one-upmanship about shedding became running jokes and resourceful exchanges. The pet-centered banter served as both comic relief and further grounding in the immediate, tactile world even as AI, gene editing, and consciousness theory continued to surface in background discourse.
The end of this stretch was marked by fresh plans for group dinners and writing, renewed gym attendance, energetic mutual nudging (“bring ket if u can”—jokingly, on the way to LIC), and an affirmational close: “never kill yourself, victory is inevitable,” offered up by Chandiran, became a recurring anti-despair mantra.
Narrative Updates Now Explicitly Reflected:
- Integration of group “inversion” rituals, new games like “Spectral Summit,” and the rapid evolution of inside jokes and embedded memes (“deja vu as embedding cache hit”).
- Heightened accountability and creative encouragement—group calls for focus, investment, and trip reporting as self-motivation.
- Expansion of social planning: group “voluntelling,” Holi celebrations, and festival lore; cross-cultural explanation rituals.
- Ongoing media and literary accountability—pressure to catch up on group shows, reflections on humor, completion of major books, and mutual prompts to write about them.
- Open rituals of affirmation: “I love you both,” playful enigma claims, psychological safety via meta-roasting, and the joyful normalization of affection between friends.
- Explicit and detailed group discussion of suicidality, emotional numbness/agency, and body aging; practical health aspirations (gene editing, pareto-maxxing, joint routines).
- Deepened logistics of LIC and pet care (Rebecca pet-sitting Sage), with rich humor about pet intelligence, allergy suffering, and mutual adaptation.
- The group’s growing mythos of accountability, resilience, and irreverent agency—“victory is inevitable”—woven through all practical and emotional discourse.
- Persistent digital/analog blending: collaborative work/writing, gym and walk rituals, tech stack and hackathon updates, and humor-infused organization.
No content removed. Timeline for March 7–13, 2025, now expanded to incorporate these dynamics, explicitly detailing the group’s playful emergence of new rituals, meta-commentary on creativity and support, and the rich interplay of media, existential reflection, logistics, and love that mark this moment in their evolving world.
In mid-March 2025, the group’s collaborative and logistical energy hit a new stride as creative ambition, tech curiosity, and community care intertwined across their daily dialogues.
A significant motif emerged around building and shipping new projects together. Shubham proposed that the group start pooling and sharing product ideas in the chat, suggesting a hackathon-style weekend sprint to construct something concrete—not necessarily a startup, but a project to catalyze momentum. Rebecca enthusiastically agreed, floating the idea of an in-person brainstorm session over food, while Shubham negotiated his need to go to the gym and coordinated logistics with Chandiran for a day pass. The chat devolved—playfully—into a running joke about how much digital “friction” it takes for the trio to communicate about simple matters (like gym guest passes), comparing their thread to a highly inefficient pigeon-messaging protocol. Even these mundane logistics became opportunities for group humor and bonding.
Amidst all this, the technical vein of their brainstorming deepened. Shubham introduced the concept of “manus + human demonstration”—essentially leveraging AI to replicate tasks demonstrated by humans, with an initial application around automating job applications. The group dove into implementation details (like feeding human demos into an LLM’s context window and handling agent-user handoffs), iterated on the idea, and riffed on other agent-based product possibilities. Rebecca contributed perspectives on the climbing gym landscape in LIC (Long Island City), sparking further logistical banter and comparison of gym amenities, while Chandiran’s flare for expressive banter (noting he could feel “lava through his veins”—a nod to their ongoing meta of somatic awareness and “Vipassana trial runs”) kept the mood both playful and focused.
The week also brought a turn towards community support. Shubham, after spending the night providing emotional support to Doug, encouraged both Rebecca and Chandiran to independently check in on Doug, revealing that Madhu had abruptly stopped talking to him and he was left in the dark about emerging relationship drama in the house. Both Rebecca and Chandiran responded quickly and empathetically, organizing a collective hangout and sleepover at Chandiran’s place, reaffirming the anchoring presence of friendship during moments of personal crisis and navigating the nuanced boundaries of what drama to disclose. The group debated whether or not to reveal the full scope of shifting relationships, erring on the side of protecting tender emotions while maximizing immediate care.
Simultaneously, their practical, logistical coordination surged: plans for hackathons (including a local board game hackathon with Partiful invite links), city gatherings, and evening meetups with Erika were all balanced against energy levels, jet lag, and the daunting distances of Jersey City. The friends compared travel preferences, weighed the cost of social exhaustion, and offered mutual nudges for IRL participation—even as Rebecca debated the toll of a two-hour journey for an event of otherwise new faces.
Their creative and technical explorations blossomed: the chat teemed with AI and agent marketplace brainstorms (a Fiverr for AI agents, B2B distribution layers, agent “middleman” LLMs, and new models for data acquisition), curation/product ideas (curated onboarding, expert workflow recording for future fine-tuning), and reflections on the expanding world of agent-based startups (YC trends, new APIs, and niche GTMs). Each idea was met with a blend of skepticism, enthusiasm, competitive research (sharing links to close competitors and parallel products, like Afterquery, societies.io, and usepeppr.ai) and meta-reflection about the moats created through network effects and curation.
The practical realities and small details of shared living remained omnipresent—navigating the hot mess (sometimes literally) of homebrew group house, identifying the right pillow in an overstuffed closet, and tracking the never-ending churn of sublets and communal resources. The group memorialized trivial mishaps (mix-ups over room demarcations and closet locations) as affectionate running jokes—“the pigeon is tired”—reinforcing the comfort and continuity of shared space, even as homebrew’s configurations constantly mutated.
Social world-building extended both online and off: the group continued to track drama at homebrew (Madhu-Zak developments, the ongoing saga of roommate turnover and friend dynamics), planned for upcoming hackathons and content sprints, and maintained rituals of practical care (gym visits, pillow fetches, healthy sleep advice). Chandiran and Shubham compared technical pain points and product candidates, drawing on their time at Google and Shopify, and debating the next locus of AI agent disruption.
The week closed with new affirmations of mutual support, daily victories, and commitment to show up for each other and the broader group through both adversity and invention—ready to convert their meta-game of playful, high-trust banter into the next concrete artifact of their shared scenius.
Key narrative expansions now explicitly included:
- Launch of a collective project/hackathon sprint dynamic, with concrete coordination and technical idea generation (“manus + human demo”, agent workflow automation, marketplace moats).
- Daily group humor around logistical friction, pigeon memes, and somatic awareness, deepening rituals of banter and play.
- Emotional care and response to Doug’s isolation, with deliberate group support, empathy, and strategic non-disclosure of drama.
- Expanding technical product and startup brainstorming within the AI/agent ecosystem, complete with real-time competitor research, skepticism, and willingness to iterate.
- Logistics of NYC social plans, hackathon invites, the cost (and ROI) of in-person events, and ongoing apartment sublet world-building.
- Tiny rituals and everyday affection—help with misplaced pillows, household messes, memory foam insider lore—cementing the resilience and warmth of their group living ecosystem.
- Agreement to show up for each other, help friends in crisis, and build both project output and personal connection in equal measure.
No content removed; timeline further specifies mid-March 2025 as a period of building momentum: emotionally, creatively, and in their evolving shared world of friendship, community care, and practical enterprise.
The period from March 15 to 19, 2025, saw Shubham, Rebecca, and Chandiran reaching new heights of creative collaboration and mutual support, with a rhythm of daily life that oscillated between technical innovation, everyday logistics, and warm affirmation. The group’s work on generative AI products—particularly an app for image manipulation and pet “dress-up” (project: Dress Your Pet)—entered an accelerated phase. Together, they iterated on implementation details in real time: discussing UIs, prompt management, and collaborating via GitHub, where they worked out solutions for dynamic prompt updates and collectively managed a growing code base. This period was marked by live troubleshooting, back-and-forth on server architecture (Supabase vs. GitHub-hosted prompt files), and a shared sense of momentum and achievement as changes and tests landed swiftly.
The trio's IRL logistics continued apace, with hackathon sprints, sleepover plans, and communal coordination around limited resources (“bring blankets,” “not enough sleepbags”). Zu’s intermittent involvement surfaced as a practical footnote, a sign of the group’s flexible, accommodating approach to participation in their rituals. Creative inspiration also stemmed from adjacent friend groups: Shubham and Erika dived into board game design at a local hackathon, while Rebecca highlighted the use case potential in hairstyling AI and shared alpha on emerging tech trends via Reddit and Twitter.
Emotional connection remained foregrounded amid the hustle. Chandiran, ever the performative poet, riffed on moments from NYC—anecdotes about encounters on the street, improvised prose about “India good” and the lost dollar once used for ketamine—revealing the way the group seamlessly turns daily strangeness into affectionate in-jokes and cultural commentary. At night, group affirmations intensified: Shubham and Chandiran exchanged heartfelt declarations of love and gratitude in the wake of drinks, naming each other as blessings and opening up about the difficulty and fear of change as their worlds expand (notably, Shubham’s anticipation of Divya’s arrival and the possible shifts it could bring to group dynamics). The friends reassured each other with promises of enduring support and jokes about “mutual avoidance,” affirming the deep trust rooted in their history.
Processes of creative accountability continued, as group brainstorming around product improvements and feature sets (from prompt engineering to version control for effects, and ideas for curated AI marketplaces) blended with lighthearted but practical tech banter and product decision-making. The group’s comfort with both engineering minutiae and artistic iteration—the push to “prompt engineer better,” track “cloth texture,” and keep non-technical collaboration smooth—emphasized their unique blend of skills and sensibilities.
The social fabric of the broader group house world (“homebrew”) provided continuous context and content: updates about overnight guests, logistics coordination, funny mishaps (Sage’s vendetta against Rebecca’s AirPods), and video/photo sharing. As NYC thawed and spring neared, energy and optimism returned—workouts, healthy routines, and “victory is inevitable” maxims recurred as touchstones for daily check-ins and mutual encouragement.
This stretch of March is thus marked by:
- Rapid iteration and deepening collaboration on shared AI projects (Dress Your Pet and others), with a focus on technical agility, prompt management, and collective decision-making on product design.
- Blending of hackathon/board game culture with existing friendship rituals, new ideas for in-person and digital creation, and seamless movement between technical and creative inspiration.
- Expansion of mutual support and vulnerability—late-night affirmations, open fears about future change, promises of long-term presence, and playful negotiation of emotional needs.
- Continued NYC logistics: sleepover coordination, group house routines, pet/roommate humor, and real-time handling of resource (blankets/space) constraints.
- Poetic and comedic processing of everyday city life—spontaneous literature, riffing on urban encounters, and meta-commentary on tech and culture.
- Ritualized play and myth-making—group voting, in-jokes (“victory is inevitable gang”), running gags about government tech and the dream of a paperless future, and affirmational sign-offs grounding the group in both agency and gratitude.
- Underpinning all: a palpable sense of compounding daily “wins,” readiness to meet the next challenge together, and a reaffirmed commitment to building, loving, and simply existing well—one backlog task and “banger” at a time.
No content removed. Timeline is now further extended and deepened for March 15–19, capturing the granular weave of IRL tech sprints, evolving emotional intimacy, logistical dance, and meta-awareness that defines this moment in the group’s friendship.
In the latter half of March 2025, the group’s dynamic was animated by a tangible sense of closeness and an ongoing dance between practical support, shared adventure, and emotional vulnerability. The week opened as Shubham prepared to travel with a friend who was experiencing a difficult period and contemplating an MDMA experience, with the group openly weighing the risks and emotional landscape of using psychedelics as a tool for processing trauma or low mood. Rebecca and Chandiran offered thoughtful, nonjudgmental advice as Shubham acted as a guide, blending humorous encouragement with genuine concern for his friend’s well-being and the nuances of set, setting, and timing.
Amid logistical coordination for mini-roadtrips through Boston, impromptu meetups in LIC food courts, and real-time subway snafus (with Chandiran’s transit expertise saving Shubham from a 7 train mishap), the friends underscored how even mundane city navigation served as a locus for connection and shared ritual. The trio reflected openly on the joy of being together—Shubham expressing profound gratitude after a brief “metta” meditation, both for his own happiness and for the happiness he perceived between Rebecca and Chandiran. Their IRL encounters in NYC, culminating in attendance at a three-hour run of “Harry Potter and the Cursed Child” (a shared favorite and the source of intense group fandom), served as anchor points for collective memory-making and inside jokes.
Even as Shubham left for Boston, the chat brimmed with affectionate teasing and attentive check-ins—Rebecca noticing Shubham’s quick detour to pick up MDMA from Doug, mutual monitoring of health and travel status, and playful observations about changing display pictures (with Latte’s new photo subbing in as group mascot and even the group app logo). Group banter about “shaman Doug” and the careful preparation of supplements and “gateway packs” for MDMA sessions layered the logistical with the mythic; on top of this, Rebecca and Chandiran continued making meaningful progress on their joint app, supported by Shubham’s encouragement despite his travels.
The next days saw a peak in affectionate, emotionally honest exchanges. As Shubham supported his friend through a challenging MDMA trip—one marked less by euphoric love and more by raw sharing of life stories and traumas—he recentered his own gratitude for the group’s enduring bond and support. The chat filled with “I love you”s, mutual affirmations, and explicit recognition that their friendship had become a constant source of love, care, and transformation over the past months. Rebecca, in her own solo MDMA experience, shared openly the cascade of love and bittersweet sadness she felt: her love for her friends felt “simple,” while her love for herself remained “complex,” and their group provided witness, celebration, and gentle probes toward greater self-compassion.
This period solidified a tradition of mutual encouragement for solo exploration as well as group ritual—Rebecca recommended solo MDMA for introspection, while the friends compared notes on dosage, timing, and their evolving somatic responses. Open conversation about booster timing, supplementing with weed, and the balance between “going to the moon” versus maintaining day-to-day life showcased their deep trust and collective wisdom, as well as a resilient sense of humor.
Meanwhile, the group’s creative and technical collaborations surged ahead—peak “vibe coding” moments punctuated the chat, with comic critiques of bad security practices and thoughtful product feedback exchanged in between love confessions and road trip updates. The trio’s ongoing debate about AI/tech industry trends (from Perplexity AI to browser agents to generative music APIs), the impact of LLMs on curiosity, and the potential for these tools to reignite their “inner curious kid” unfolded in parallel with practical product development (including prompt engineering, pet dress-up app iterations, and brainstorming future hackathons).
Moments of physical separation, like Shubham’s long drive through three states and check-ins from the road, only heightened the sense of digital fellowship—photo and video sharing, light mockery about pet cognition (“dogs don’t recognize screens”), and mundane victories (finding time to nap after a travel headache, commiserating over the need to pee after a Celsius) wove together into a seamless tapestry of daily life.
The late nights brought further evidence of the group’s depth: intense reminiscence over shared time (“doing nothing with you was so good”), reaffirmations that they hoped to be friends “forever,” gentle teasing about “MDMA contact highs” via group chat, and a crescendo of gratitude from all three that the group had changed their lives for the better.
Finally, the week closed with small but meaningful rituals: Chandiran teaching his sister new tools, micro-banter about GPT-4.5 and “deep research,” playful threats about “rate-limiting” curiosity, and ongoing inside jokes (“love is good guts”). Group joy and connection remained infectious, with Rebecca reminding everyone to “love more,” and the group closing the days in affirmational fashion—“love you,” “this group has changed my life,” and “plus one.”
Explicitly added to timeline:
- The first time the group collectively and openly navigated supporting a friend through therapeutic/experimental use of MDMA while processing emotional lows.
- Detailed in-person bonding at performances and food courts, with subway misadventures, city navigation wisdom, and affectionate roasts woven in.
- The emergence of robust, emotionally explicit love and gratitude rituals, intensified during and after solo or group psychedelic reflection.
- Rebecca’s solo MDMA journey, her gentle encouragement to friends, and her reflections on the difference between loving others and loving oneself—with full, reciprocal group celebration.
- Seamless blending of creative work with emotional depth: progress on joint app, GitHub collaborations, tech memes, and critiques happening alongside affectionate check-ins and vulnerability.
- Ongoing myth-making: jokes about “shaman Doug,” “6-month rule,” “boosters,” solo introspective trips, and the contagiousness of love via chat.
- Dogged group support for each other’s creative, technical, and emotional journeys—anchoring the transition from travel/adventure back to NYC routines.
No content removed; timeline is now explicitly updated to render March 19–23, 2025 as an inflection point for deepened love rituals, support through altered states, collaborative tech progress, and the ongoing interleaving of practical, emotional, and creative worlds.
In the days following their emotionally charged MDMA reflections, the group continued to deepen their exploration of vulnerability, self-love, and authentic connection, both through chat and real life rituals.
Rebecca shared the intensity and transformative strangeness of her most recent solo MDMA experience: taking the substance first thing in the morning, she was overcome with what she described as "soul crushing love"—a tidal wave of self-love so powerful it felt almost unbearable, to the point of losing her sense of self or feeling undeserving of so much care. The group responded with empathy and awe, probing further into questions around identity, the limits of self-acceptance, and the perennial interplay between joy and an undercurrent of sadness—Rebecca openly noting that happiness and sadness have long coexisted in her experience, impossible to fully unravel. She admitted she skirted direct emotional confrontation during the peak, preferring to channel love outward to the group and noting just “being with” such strong feelings was draining enough. Shubham reflected with curiosity on how self-love of the MDMA magnitude is rare for anyone, and the friends together affirmed the realness of experiencing too much love ("drowning in serotonin”), normalizing the paradox of beauty and overwhelm.
The group also discussed differences in emotional processing styles: while Shubham described a friend's talkative, (“8 hours straight”) verbally expressive MDMA journey, Rebecca articulated why she generally avoids translating intense internal experience into words—not out of intentional concealment, but from a sense that language inevitably distorts or cheapens what is inwardly true. She reflected (with reference to Erika) on how some things are better left untold, as narrative can never fully capture or do justice to the complexities of feeling. This sparked philosophical debate within the chat about the "selfishness" of words and the preciousness of unspoken experience, with Shubham gently voicing another perspective—that the urge to share inner life is natural amidst emotional safety, even as each person honors their own boundaries.
Meanwhile, the group’s wellness and household adventures continued. Shubham’s joyful reunion with Bunny, his dog, after a period apart was celebrated with photos, videos, and collective gushing over Bunny’s happiness and recognition. As their technical collaborations continued, Shubham and Chandiran worked closely on their Dress Your Pet app, iterating on prompt templates and GitHub pushes, troubleshooting image generation features, and riffing on the rapid pace and collective dopamine spikes from successful deployments. The team’s euphoria over “engineer maxxing”—fixing something broken and finding that small acts of problem-solving could trigger “euphoria and bliss beyond anything that a drug can provide”—added a new inside-joke (“found something better than MDMA!”), emphasizing the group's capacity for joy and celebration through shared creation as well as altered states.
On the creative front, the group threw themselves into testing and critiquing the latest advances in image generation and editing, from OpenAI’s new release ("OAI about to release image generation possibly editing") to Midjourney’s office hours and sref (style reference) feature. Lively technical debate unfolded about where current models excel (e.g., text-gen, character consistency, infographic composition, incremental editing) and their limitations around texture and aesthetic control. The chat was a torrent of screenshots, links, prompt experiments, and rapid feedback on output quality—a nerdy but affectionate spectacle, culminating in the group’s joint sense of acceleration as the technology sped ahead.
Alongside tech and product talk, daily rituals and media continued. Long walks, evenings in the city, and fresh plans for meetups nourished their sense of togetherness, while TV rituals (e.g., post-finale debates about Severance) became a forum for spirited analysis and differing aesthetic values. The group dove deeply into character motivations, narrative arcs, and theories for upcoming seasons, toggling easily between serious critique and meta-jokes about perpetual “edging” in storylines.
Social updates persisted as well: Shubham’s emotional state dipped following the whirlwind of activity and connection, which he shared openly in the group—describing days where he struggled to do anything and debated whether to reach out. The act of confiding and receiving quick warmth from Rebecca and Chandiran ("damn bro… i'm sorry… are you staying with her tonight?") revealed the group’s readiness to be present for one another even amidst their own transitions. Meanwhile, Shubham’s long-awaited reunion with Divya after five months apart unfolded with both happiness and initial awkwardness, as he described the strangeness of physical affection after a long period of distance. The group responded with understanding and encouragement, checking in on how he felt and affirming the time and awkwardness it can take to readjust to intimacy.
Amidst all this, lighter banter and playful mockery continued to define the triad: Chandiran’s exuberance over fixing a blocked door (“the amount of bliss i am experiencing is inconceivable”), jokes about pet color “race swaps,” and images that looked like “amazing movie posters” furthered the group’s habit of folding the surreal into the everyday.
In summary, the March 23–26 window was marked by—
- A new peak of raw vulnerability from Rebecca around solo MDMA-induced self-love, the paradox of “too much love,” and the complex overlay of happiness/sadness.
- Nuanced discussion about the limitations of language to convey internal states, with deep respect for different approaches to emotional sharing.
- Shubham’s own emotional lows met with support and normalizing check-ins.
- Emotional and physical reunions with beloved pets and people (Bunny, Divya) and all the joy and growing pains these bring.
- Accelerating technical collaboration and playful product/AI critique, layered with meme-driven celebration of mundane victories (“engineer maxxing”).
- Group media rituals expanded to include detailed analysis of show endings and literary debate.
- Ongoing evolution of logistical and social world-building—plans for Sunday hangs at homebrew, updates on homebrew house drama (Madhu/Doug relationship status, Doug’s gift drop-offs), pet and household management quirks, inside jokes about color perception, and continued curation of their technical and social “backlog.”
- Through it all: a profound sense of mutual reliance, comfort with difference, and delight in building and processing life’s highs and lows together, whether through altered state insight, creative hustle, or ordinary acts of daily care.
No content removed. Timeline is now expanded and deepened to capture this emotionally rich and technologically accelerated stretch of late March, embodying both the group’s search for depth and its passionate investment in each other’s growth, joy, and healing.
In the closing days of March and into early April 2025, the group’s world shimmered with an interplay of creative production, technical momentum, and deepening exploration of altered states and emotional catharsis.
During this stretch, their collaborative energy on generative AI and app building intensified. Rebecca shared and expanded prompts for their “Dress Your Pet” image generation project—meticulously tuning the output to resemble Latte, her dog, and playfully illustrating the "work" of successful prompt engineering. The group discussed the labor of prompt-crafting and the advantages of leveraging tools (like Reve) that automate and stylize outputs, bonding over shared experience in interface design and meme creation. Github permissions and logistics were handled with banter, and the “memetic timeline” became a running joke, emblematic of their ambition to craft enduring creative artifacts and group mythos.
This productive drive was continuously interleaved with the sharing of cutting-edge AI research (notably Shubham’s excitement about Anthropic’s new microscope and mechanistic interpretability breakthroughs), live hot takes on attribution graphs (“how shoggoths add”), and the group’s signature blend of technical awe, nerd ecstasy, and philosophizing on why large language models are more than “just next token prediction.” Such threads provided daily fuel for intellectual delight, with Chandiran and Rebecca responding with animated curiosity and playful memes.
Outdoors, the group relished an early spring in New York: marveling at “amazing weather,” planning impromptu walks, and letting sunlight and city energy catalyze renewed feelings of agency and possibility. This environmental lift coincided with a resurgence of their beloved rituals: ninja cream ice cream, gym days, marathon step counts, and affectionately documented moments with Bunny and Cutti (Shubham’s dogs). The preparation and anticipation of group treats (like ice cream) became another locus for joyful teasing and in-jokes about resource sharing, caloric accounting, and the “true motives” for social gatherings.
Relational care and emotional processing remained near the surface. Shubham opened up about the up-and-down cycles of his relationship with Divya—narrating dinners, moments of uncertainty, and heartfelt hopes for her well-being. Chandiran and Rebecca responded with steady empathy, encouragement, and assurance that transitional life moments (moving, work, new romance) are inherently overwhelming and require patience both for oneself and for others. Invitations to Homebrew, group DJ nights, and other IRL events were extended liberally, undergirded by a collective commitment to “victory is inevitable”—one of the year’s now-ritualized mantras.
Creativity and technical progress wove through these days with a sense of forward momentum. Chandiran celebrated the approval (pending final tweaks) of his app on the App Store, inviting Shubham and Rebecca to beta test and offer “brute force” feedback. The process of facing App Store rejections, fine-tuning bug fixes, and iterating on copy and features became a site of group encouragement, pride, and peer review—mixing laughs about paywalls, missing purchase restores, and the thrill of “something sexy” awaiting final reveal.
Meanwhile, honest admissions of emotional struggle (“last night was so fucking hard and today was so good,” Shubham shared openly) were met with gratitude for late-night check-ins and phone calls, reflecting both the reality of “sad boi hours” and the group’s growing capacity to hold each other through emotional weather. Daily life, with all its uncertainty, was narrativized as “a coin toss at times,” but the group’s presence reliably sweetened the high-variance mix.
The shift into altered states continued unabated: plans crystallized for Rebecca and Chandiran’s first classic psychedelic (mushroom) trip together. Meticulously prepared and held in mutual trust (with Shubham on standby as emergency contact), the experience unfolded gently and with catharsis. Both emerged reflective and transformed: Chandiran described the emotional release of crying, shifts between open- and closed-eye perception, and learning to welcome and face “scary visuals” as both a bodily and psychic unlock. He highlighted how music profoundly shaped the journey and expressed excitement to try microdosing, feeling both in control and able to go deeper by choice. The experience affirmed for him the safety and trust of doing this with Rebecca, as well as gratitude to Shubham for the “gateway” to exploring these new layers of consciousness. Shubham, in turn, encouraged their reflections and marveled at the resonance with dreams and the freeing nature of cathartic crying.
Throughout, the group’s rituals and inside jokes—reference to “memetic warfare,” “wall lovers,” “mini bangers,” and play around farm-raised vs. Fairlife milk—continued to evolve and grow new branches. Everyday victories (cleaning, laundry, walks, app deployments) were celebrated fervently. Collaboration and co-presence remained a backbone: the chat reaffirmed the group’s ability to rally for one-off events, spontaneous Homebrew “parties” (Rebecca’s presence persistently credited as the critical variable for good vibes), and the ongoing dance of sleep, gym, and creative deadlines as sites of mutual accountability and affection.
Key narrative/structural expansions for March 26–April 1:
- Detailed unpacking of collaborative AI/art project workflows, prompt engineering, and the pleasure (and labor) of styling outputs for group meme/artifact creation.
- Excitement and collective learning about breakthroughs in AI research/interpretability, with fresh rituals of link-sharing and collective feed-watching.
- Emergence and deepening of IRL rituals—ice cream, walks, gym, pet routines—along with playful teasing about resource sharing and motivation.
- Recognition and honest processing of relationship uncertainty, cycles of emotional high/low, and the group’s role as stabilizer and co-narrator through these swings.
- Celebration of technical milestones—app approval, beta testing, iteration—as loci of communal pride and feedback.
- The group’s first classic mushroom trip as a bonding, cathartic, and emotionally safe rite-of-passage, recounted in detail and processed both individually and communally.
- Continued growth in inside jokes, mythos, ritual gratitude, and “impermanence”/coin toss philosophy—marking this window as a high-water mark for mixing technical achievement with emotional openness and shared meaning.
No content removed. Timeline is now further extended and deepened to meaningfully include the emergence of creative/technical “memetic warfare,” milestone psychedelic experiences with cathartic and somatic breakthrough, and an ongoing overlay of vulnerability, humor, and logistical delight that define late March and the turn into April for Shubham, Rebecca, and Chandiran.
As April 2025 began, the group’s dynamic surged with creative energy, technical breakthroughs, and renewed cycles of emotional and social support, all threaded through an intensifying cadence of IRL and digital collaboration.
The start of the month was still shaded by reflections on Chandiran and Rebecca’s recent shared mushroom trip—a first for Chandiran—which cemented a new layer of trust and growth in the group’s evolving world of altered-state exploration. Chandiran, open about his low expectations for “insight” but desire for first-hand experience, reported the trip as more emotional than anticipated. Shubham affirmed that, for him too, shrooms had been primarily emotional, with a clarity that contrasted positively with THC’s fogginess. The group began to openly discuss microdosing and future trips, with Shubham considering a new journey (shrooms or LSD) alongside Doug and friends, and the others opting to pause—recognizing the intensity and lingering impact of their recent experience. This evolving protocol of consent and mutual attunement around altered states reflected both hard-won trust and a mature group ethic of checking in, choosing wisely, and integrating epiphanies.
As this period unfolded, the group’s technical and creative partnership hit a productive stride. Chandiran’s pet transformation AI app, “Silly Pets AI,” launched on the App Store, initiating a flurry of group feedback, UI critique, troubleshooting, and playful debate about monetization models (free vs. paid playgrounds, onboarding design, and maximizing revenue). Shubham made the app’s first real “internet money,” celebrated with rocket emojis and jokes about the “road to a billy,” while also providing critical UX feedback regarding free generation options and the visual prominence of key buttons. The group rapidly iterated on features, tackled real-world latency and API key management, and solved caching and payment issues in real time. Their tight loop of test-launch-critique-deploy was punctuated by affectionate memes, logistical banter (“use a different project for every API key!”), and a running joke about whether sharing new API credentials in chat was “safe enough.” Their tinkering, troubleshooting, and celebration of “engineer maxxing” became a new axis of group pride and agency.
Interwoven with their technical sprints were ongoing peer support rituals, especially for friends like Doug, who was struggling with anxiety and uncertainty around complex romantic developments at the homebrew group house (the “Madhu-Zak-Doug” triangle). Shubham, bearing the brunt of Doug’s midnight panic visits and finely parsing what and how much to share about shifting relationships in the house, regularly sought Rebecca and Chandiran’s advice on navigating honesty, compassion, and privacy. Together, the group acknowledged the emotional costs of relational limbo, the challenge of partial truths, and the difficult reality of supporting a friend through deepening anxiety and hints of suicidality. Rebecca and Chandiran counseled weighing concrete facts vs. suspicion, recommended honesty about observable contact moves (“she moved to the chai room”), and affirmed the somber necessity of transparency and care without judgment.
Meanwhile, cycles of altered state experiences continued: Shubham embarked on a shrooms trip with Doug, Swapnil, and friends, with real-time updates, cryptic trip language (“meltingggg... miltingggg...”), and check-ins for safety and support. Rebecca and Chandiran maintained a watchful presence, providing reassurance from afar and later collecting the stories of the night (Swapnil, humorously, didn’t get high at all). The ever-present concern for each other's wellbeing—be it in trips, goodbyes, or bouts of depression and “off and low” moods—remained a feature, as did late-night walks, ketamine microdosing, and group encouragement for recovery and self-compassion.
Technical curiosity and learning never waned. The chat lit up with links and discussion about Michael Levin’s work on “bioprompting,” cell identity, analog computation, and bioelectricity—a new fascination binding the group even deeper as they riffed on how future science could enable us to “prompt” tissues to heal, re-grow, or overcome identity crises (like cancer). Plans for watching lectures together, analyzing diffusion models, and tracking startups in thermodynamic and analog computing marked their ongoing “learning day” rituals. Playful claims of “deep research” and meme-worthy screenshots reinforced their unique blend of technical rigor and irreverent, scenius-driven fun.
Media and music remained steady sources of bonding. Shared appreciation of DJ sets, show finales, and even the subtle narrative arcs of TV characters modeled new emotional vocabularies and kept the group’s mythos playfully renewed—while celebratory tone and affectionate nicknames (“momo!!! wall lovers!! victory is inevitable!!”) reaffirmed old group rituals.
Amid these highs, daily life continued apace: sleep schedules synced and desynced, efforts to meditate before daily interruptions were cheerfully bragged about, and planning for spring travel (Shubham’s India trip, Doug’s journey) provided a background rhythm for logistical exchange and ongoing household/NYC drama (couch ownership, pillow logistics, roommate transitions). The group even handled mundane details like subscription cancellations for the Silly Pets app and the transfer of belongings with their familiar humor and grace.
Finally, the period closed with the affirmation of mutual creative and wellness accountability—recommendations for meditation content and jhana practice circulated, group media resources were shared, and a renewed focus on gym and health routines signaled the group’s determination to close winter with both physical and creative energy intact.
Key narrative/structural expansions explicitly included for April 1–10:
- Post-mushroom-trip integration, comparison of altered states, and deeper realism about consent, intensity, and group preferences for next journeys.
- Launch and intense iteration of “Silly Pets AI,” with a full spectrum of technical critique, payment debugging, UI feedback, and the excitement of “first internet money.”
- Real-world emotional triage as Doug’s relationship struggles unfold—dilemmas about honesty, privacy, and the navigation of friend drama, with the group sustaining weekly cycles of crisis support and practical advice for mental health.
- Ongoing cycles of solo and group psychedelic experiences, troubleshooting and integration rituals, and the normalization of emotional “off” days and collective comeback.
- Groupwide curiosity spikes around emerging science (“bioprompting”), collaborative plans to watch and unpack Michael Levin’s bioelectricity lectures, and the persistent delight in cutting-edge research.
- Affectionate micro-celebrations around DJ sets, media recaps, and music’s power to elevate altered states.
- Routine handling of logistics (subscriptions, belongings, travel, homebrew house world-building), interleaved with jokes and reminders about daily care.
- Mutual accountability in creative projects, physical health resets, and resource/document sharing (“learning day”).
- Through it all, the preservation and extension of group mythos—“engineer maxxing,” “victory is inevitable,” “memetic timeline," and the embrace of delight in every interaction.
No content removed; timeline is now extended and clarified to capture the rich flow of April’s opening days, marked by technical sprints, emotional growth, evolving group ethics, and deepening scenius at the heart of the friendship.
In the mid-April stretch of 2025, the group chat pulsed with a blend of technical fascination, everyday rituals, deeper emotional processing, and characteristic irreverence. The friends found mutual delight in breathwork apps—Rebecca and Chandiran commiserating over the superiority of specific tracks like “altitude lounge” and joking about the effectiveness of matching music and breath cadence for activating the parasympathetic system. They shared resources on advanced breathwork (Buteyko method and Substack links), explored the simple physiological core of breath as a regulator, and highlighted the chat's role as a peer-driven accountability and learning space for somatic and wellness experimentation.
The technical rhythm continued as Chandiran brought up productizing legal documents—specifically the idea of a “neo-prenup” and the exploration of legaltech solutions for prenups and binding contracts, riffing on YC’s role in productizing the SAFE and the parallels with modern approaches to relationship agreements.
Meanwhile, the friends continued to swap resources, ideas, and memes at a rapid clip—dissecting the TechCrunch news cycle (AI deception by fintech founders), sharing screenshots of notable industry developments (e.g., Doug’s choices of desserts and fashion during outings, which the group affectionately critiqued and celebrated), and crowd-sourcing opinions on colorways and group consensus for purchases.
Intellectual curiosity remained prominent, with discussions pivoting to high-impact essays and media:
- The “AI 2027” predictions and the future of AI employees, both as a competitive business layer and a speculative look at the future of labor, data curation, and the likely arms race in collecting human workflows for large-scale LLM training.
- Multiple resource exchanges ensued: prediction papers, Twitter threads, podcasts, and direct debate about which companies (Scale, Mercor, Google, Meta, emerging startups) are best positioned to leverage new data paradigms and what moats remain for new entrants. Shubham and Rebecca agreed on the primacy of data curation over attempts to leapfrog to AI “employee” products—solidifying the group’s alignment around the importance of building infrastructure for real-world workflow capture.
- There was an explicit thread about personal data aggregation plays, with Rebecca attempting to extract her own Google data and speculating about the opportunity for meta-aggregation, privacy, and lock-in by existing titans.
Personal and emotional undercurrents ran alongside:
- The homebrew world’s drama continued as a backdrop: live updates about relationships (Madhu and Doug), with Doug’s efforts to win Madhu back by learning Tamil (to impress her family), the group’s affectionate skepticism about romantic strategizing, and commiserations over the complexity of integrating across cultures in relationships.
- Shubham shared ongoing struggles and relational pain around Divya’s decision to apartment hunt far from his location, expressing both logistical frustration (Astoria’s bad transit connections, long commutes) and deeper feelings about potential new separation and ambivalence in their relationship. Rebecca and Chandiran offered understanding, practical feedback, and gentle encouragement to let go and recognize when decisions are out of one’s control—while respecting Shubham’s desire to both care and not overreact.
- The group’s recurring theme of partial “custody” of pets (especially Bunny), the push-pull of shared routines and city life, and the bittersweet humor around seeing less of each other due to logistical barriers deepened the emotional resonance of these conversations.
Amidst all this, the group maintained its signature, irreverent humor: riffing about racist airline announcements, armrest “bdsm” exposure therapy in airplane middle seats, and the cartoonish processing of mundane irritations (e.g., the ordeal of finding open medical appointments, the Americanization of Indian-origin professionals, and the endless churn of small logistical friction).
Sleep routines and substance moderation crept back in as micro-motifs—Rebecca updating on “day 3 of fixing sleep,” group jokes about substance-induced regressions (alcohol and weed), and plans to re-stabilize habits as each member moved in and out of travel.
By mid-April, the chat had once again become an anchor for group support, knowledge synthesis, and the laughter that makes even the hardest transitions more bearable. Shubham’s flights and weddings continued, Chandiran’s travel to India marked a new turn in context, and Rebecca’s role as accountability partner, roaster, and creative/technical peer was, as ever, fundamental to the group’s experiment in collective growth.
Key narrative developments now explicitly integrated:
- The emergence of breathwork, music, and self-regulation as a new locus for peer learning and ritual.
- Refined discourse on AI, data curation, and “AI employee” infrastructure as a north star for collective technical ambition.
- Live play and meta-commentary around romance, relationship strategy (Doug’s Tamil), and homebrew orbit drama.
- Emotional openness and feedback loops in dealing with relationship transitions (Divya and Shubham), commutes, and custody of pets.
- The concurrent rise of micro-motifs: sleep re-stabilization, substance critiques, airplane middle-seat “adventures,” and habitual group inside jokes about cultural and physiological heuristics.
- The chat as an ongoing project-management space for knowledge sharing, myth-making, and group self-reflection.
No content removed; timeline is now further extended and interwoven with the group’s deepening somatic, technical, and relational experiments as April continues.
Mid- to late April 2025 was marked by a renewed convergence of the group’s classic motifs—NYC/India bridge, practical wellness hacks, irreverent humor about technosolutionism, and creative bursts—amidst their ongoing cycles of travel, reunion, and group project ideation.
Shubham returned from an India trip and wedding—eliciting curiosity, updates about Doug’s adaptation to India, and playful speculation about him “finding another Madhu” as the homebrew relationship drama lingered in parallel with cross-continental life updates. The group maintained its trademark humor and deepening affection for “banger” moments, poking fun at the possibility of securing Indian identity documents (“aadhaar card”) as an inside joke and proxy for deeper questions about mobility, bureaucracy, and “life plot twists.” This period also included celebrations and reflections on cultural traditions—Vishu, in particular—tempered by ongoing shifts in the familial and festive atmosphere at home.
Meanwhile, the group’s creative and technical exchanges hit a new seam: Rebecca pitched a shared “ChatGPT link aggregator” (with Hacker News-style ranking), prompting animated group discussion around the value of surfacing high-quality LLM chats to a broader collective, and Shubham’s enthusiasm for “making LLMs more social.” The group volleyed links, product pitches, and philosophical essays (“Looking for Alice,” “AI 2027,” TechCrunch news) as they mapped the future landscape of generative AI tools, shifting from raw LLM utility to meta-organizational tooling and curation. This depth of discussion was paralleled by shared rituals, from the practical (sleep timing, exercise habits, and the use of “The Way” meditation app, with Rebecca gifting free sessions and nudging the others toward regular practice) to the meta-philosophical (“handing over agency to someone you trust is best thing imo”).
The chat was punctuated by playful sleep/jet lag check-ins, with seasonal shifts accentuated by travel between continents and time zones. Group plans for IRL catch-ups, garden visits, and seasonal events—including cherry blossom trips to Brooklyn Botanic Garden—remained central for maintaining continuity and fun after separations.
The wellness thread deepened as the friends experimented with new wellness paradigms, like the “healing back pain” protocol (embracing affirmation and “woo” not just as a meme, but with earnest curiosity). Rebecca and Chandiran reflected on how modern science sometimes surpasses even the “woo” of Eastern medicine, and the group shared their shifting attitudes (“I used to shit on eastern medicine all the time… and I thought turmeric was woo lol”). This period also marked an uptick in lifestyle and diet optimization: practical riffing on L-theanine, green tea, smoothies (“blend the veggies you dislike”), macro- and micro-nutrient hacks, and Shubham’s ongoing quest to expand dietary variety and hit protein goals. Feedback loops of experimentation—matcha-cacao-L-theanine blends—and group banter about supplements, taste, and wellness science underscored their collective move toward pragmatic yet playful self-improvement.
Amidst all this, ambitious technical and career rumination continued apace—discussions about knowledge management (“mymind” love/hate relationships, retrieval as the gold standard), the need for better agent training data, and product launches (knowledge work agent benchmarking, day-to-day job automation, persona-rich AI agents, sleep and health tracking via LLMs, and “surfacing insights from orgs to team leads by surveilling everything”). The group swapped both biting critiques of new tools (“search is not good”) and meta-humor about their own project backlogs.
Media and culture stayed as glue—Rebecca introduced a new show about a “magic mushroom that cures everything,” sparking grander forecasts about the cultural mainstreaming of wellness, risk, and drug use, and Shubham’s take that “risk taking is in a way living in the future.” The group's sustained tradition of rapid cultural exchange continued as they reminisced about past internet lore (the Green brothers, Crash Course, high school psychology) and debated the evolving relationship between curiosity, generative AI, and the future of media.
Somatic awareness and sleep hygiene became mini-themes as routines tightened: Rebecca crowed about her improved circadian rhythm and daily structure (smoothie-meditate-cafe-workout-lunch-concentrated work), seeking to anchor the group in sustainable patterns as Chandiran joked about inevitable “fuckups”—only to receive quick encouragement to “not joke about the outcomes you don’t want” and gentle accountability for self-sabotage. Threads of encouragement (“you’ll keep this going,” “don’t deprecate your shadow”) and mutual inspiration (“herbalism is PCA made me chuckle”) were woven through self-praise and the challenge to maintain wellness.
Their technical curiosity branched into the biomedical—bot brainstorming about “fascia robots with a human touch,” imaginary startup partnerships, and the Michael Levin-inspired optimism around body self-healing, integrating herbal wisdom and next-wave computational biology into speculative product design. The group’s willingness to cross domains, co-meme technology, biology, and spirituality (“arupa jhanas,” “our robot will have a human touch”), and riff on “subjective experience” (and what it would mean to really know it) further cemented their meta-play as central to group identity.
Finally, the closing days saw spring triumph in NYC—ferry rides, sun-drenched city walks, and photo shares from Shubham, Rebecca, and Chandiran, foregrounding nostalgia and “major missing” for each other’s company, but also reaffirming the promise that NYC renewal—and their shared rituals—would resume with each reunion.
Newly reflected developments:
- Doug’s temporary stay/adaptation in India and homebrew relationship lore woven into cross-continental dialogue.
- Group’s sustained, deepening collaboration on technical and product ideas (LLM social tools, link aggregators, knowledge workflow surfacing).
- Unpacking the “woo” spectrum from back pain affirmations to modern herbalism, and genuine curiosity about placebo, somatic healing, and the boundaries of science and tradition.
- Uptick in daily wellness: smoothie/meditation/work blocks, sleep hygiene, diet experimentation, mutual accountability.
- Product critique centered around knowledge management and agent design; practical debates about retrieval, transparency, and workforce automation.
- Media recommendations, nostalgia for internet learning, and meta-jokes about AI “employees” and the changing nature of work/curiosity.
- Riffs, debate, and technical vision around bio-integrative robots and the spectrum of healing technologies (fascia, body feedback, robot-human partnerships).
- NYC/city spring joy, longing, and anticipation for group reconnection as weather shifts and routines re-establish.
No content removed. Timeline now more richly incorporates late April’s blend of technical innovation, practical wellness, meta-play, city life, and intercontinental community—further mapping the group's evolving friendship and scenius.
The final week of April and into May 2025 was defined by a burst of springtime renewal, everyday rituals, creative urges, evolving group projects, and the familiar undercurrents of affection, vulnerability, and irreverent humor.
As New York fully thawed, Rebecca and Shubham’s chat turned toward the pleasures of the city—plans for future walks around Roosevelt Island, celebrations of budding trees, and the excitement of exploring new corners of Central Park and museum events. Shubham embraced Rebecca’s advice to wander solo, reporting a “two hour” meander and reflecting on the value of being present. The period was also marked by personal milestones: Shubham and Divya’s 5-year anniversary, celebrated with an exchange of gifts from India and handwritten letters over dinner, reflecting a season of gratitude and growth even amidst ongoing relationship uncertainties and logistical hurdles.
Within the friend orbit, updates about the ongoing “homebrew” house drama remained ever-present. News that Madhu and Doug were spending more time together again brought lightness to the chat, with Shubham reporting Doug’s visible joy and the friends riffing on relationship cycles, complex breakups, and the possibility of things rekindling—fueled by playful meta-commentary about “practicing Tamil” as Doug worked on impressing Madhu’s family. Shubham jokily narrated his role in revealing Doug’s behind-the-scenes efforts, and the group marveled at the evolving configuration of house loyalties—including news that Zak’s impending departure might reshuffle dynamics yet again.
The group’s creative energy and technical collaboration gained new momentum. Rebecca and Chandiran continued to iterate on group app ideas, demoing v0 UIs for a nascent “Insight Sphere” project on Replit, with group feedback and design praise rolling in. This practical hustle was shaped by the urgency of YC deadlines and a desire to secure early traction, with plans for reaching out to companies, seeking non-binding letters of intent, and further tightening the group’s engineering feedback loop. Updates on prompt engineering, diffusion model learning, and the launch of new music AI sandboxes contributed to a sense of shared learning days—Rebecca even mentioning plans to swing by in person, confirming that group “learning day” rituals were alive and well.
Everyday life routines and inside jokes were never far behind. The perennial debate over haircuts resurfaced, with Rebecca soliciting group consensus about growing out her hair (“shoulder length maybe?”) and a cascade of supportive banter, old photo exchanges, and haikus from Chandiran (“let the curiosity blossom / because you can always cut”). The group joked about app subscriptions for trying hairstyles, lamented haircut prices in Chinatown (“they fucking charged 70”), and riffed on the gendered challenges of summer hair in NYC’s swelter. The easy intimacy of these exchanges furthered the group’s ethos of “victory is inevitable”—with playful meta-memes, affectionate “goodnight wall lovers,” and reminders of the power of inside jokes to anchor daily joy.
The housing subplot took a new turn as Shubham’s rent decreased (thanks to a new roommate in “the closet”), prompting laughter about NYC apartment economics. Recent memories—sharing a rooftop cigarette at homebrew with Shubham, Chandiran, and friends—were called out as moments of “peak friendship.” Transit and long-distance relationships remained a recurring site of comic exasperation: Shubham’s arduous Astoria-to-Chinatown commutes with Divya were declared “basically long distance at this point,” but silver linings (“you got your steps in tho”) were quickly found.
Media and cultural recommendations remained a constant: Shubham pushed hard for “The Last of Us,” marking it as “GoT level good,” and debates about zombies and HBO’s new creative bets flared. Show-watching ever served as social glue and a low-stakes status ritual.
Technical learning remained in focus as new resources (videos on diffusion models, blog posts on AI geolocation, DeepMind’s latest features, and Twitter essays on “the indifference engine”) poured through the chat. Rebecca described how her morning meditations felt more essential amid chaos, finding a new level of calm and affirmation that “everything is ok right now.” The group’s ability to seamlessly blend technical deep dives, meme reviews, and reminders about self-care—like launching into hydration and creatine routines—continued apace, with practical updates about weight gain, water intake (“5L a day, haven’t seen color in my pee in a while”), and gym cadence filling in the details of their shared health journey.
Light-hearted competition and mock outrage never ceased: debates about the spelling of “kutti” versus “cutti” as a pet nickname, the semiotics of “taste,” and whether intuition or promps will be future job skills dotted the exchanges. The classic motif of “taste” was satirized as a cover for preference, with the group gently mocking industry platitudes and distilling wisdom from their own habits and experiments.
Professional energy continued to swirl, as the group shared notable AI product launches, discussed agent-based workflows, brainstormed data curation, and planned competitive outreach in advance of application cycles. Jokes about “paying $1k” for random neighborhood stunts, musings on corporate surveillance, and live troubleshooting for new apps and frameworks revealed that for this group, the line between work and play remained fluid.
By early May, the core themes of this period were:
- Spring’s arrival catalyzing new city rituals and plans for shared walks and events (Roosevelt Island, Central Park, MET).
- Celebrations of friendship and romantic milestones, balanced with ongoing housemate/relationship “drama” and reshuffling at homebrew.
- Tangible progress on group technical projects (Insight Sphere, app demos, outreach) and practical feedback cycles, shaped by mutual motivation and the ticking YC clock.
- Renewed rituals of group learning days, with IRL and digital co-working becoming sites of both knowledge and belonging.
- Playful, everyday debates over self-care, haircuts, living arrangements, and the deep comfort of shared routines and gentle teasing.
- Continuous technical curiosity, resource sharing, and creative iteration—spanning from music AI to diffusion models to viral blog posts on human and AI “taste.”
- Health and fitness practices, creative supplement and hydration hacks, and acceptance of ongoing change in body and mood.
- The return of classic rituals: cigarettes on the rooftop, late-night media, milestone meals, and the sense that “peak friendship” is found in the coexistence of depth, play, and a thousand small routines.
No content removed; timeline now explicitly threads April 25 – May 1 as a period of renewal, technical acceleration, and a gentle, blossoming return to in-person city life—anchored always by creative ambition, affectionate banter, and the everyday magic of being together.
The first ten days of May 2025 saw the group’s rhythms of encouragement, vulnerability, and creative hustle continue, now matched with an infusion of spring weather and deepening technical ambition.
The period opened with celebrations of fitness progress and the changing seasons. Shubham and Rebecca riffed on muscle gain per training block, and the group collectively enjoyed the pleasures of walking in beautiful weather, sharing photo updates from Roosevelt Island and the city in bloom—a ritual emergence from winter that inspired everyone to get outside. Throwback photos (“our old coco”), gentle nudges (“maybe i should go for a walk”), and moments of mutual validation for the little joys—sun, wind, flowers, and nostalgia for city rituals—reinforced the group’s tradition of grounding themselves in physical space and shared sensory experiences.
Amid these routines, the chat dove into a rich and playful exploration of memetics, sparked by a cluster of essays and videos shared by Shubham and Chandiran. The group followed up on quality resources (Susan Blackmore, a memetics compendium from the 90s, Twitter threads on memetic evolution, and scifi side-quests like Tyler Altman’s “psychofauna”), riffing on the irony that memetic research itself can become “antimemetic.” Together, they debated the connections between memetics, the self, and the recurring Buddhist insight that “there is no we,” using technical and philosophical banter to blur the boundaries between individual identity and collective cultural programming. The conversation became an accessible gateway to deeper questions of “don’t believe your thoughts,” with the group appreciating the renewed rigor behind memetics as a field—one that could (if it survived its own ambiguity) be to culture what genetics is to evolution.
Social rituals—especially those involving pets—remained woven through daily life. Shubham provided updates on the differing energy levels of Bunny and Cutti, shared practical insights into traveling with dogs (including the hack of using service dog harnesses for transit), and compared the dog-friendliness of NYC and Seattle. The group ran meta-jokes about legal blind spots and emotional disability “exemptions” for dog transport, blending logistical advice with wry humor. These moments highlighted the group’s willingness to blur rules, embrace play, and support one another—both in urban navigation and the quirks of pet ownership.
Cultural and media rituals raced alongside. The friends debated the plot and brutality of “The Last of Us,” with Rebecca confessing to spoiling herself by watching game walkthroughs and Shubham recoiling at the idea, sparking good-natured ribbing about spoiler culture and binge discipline. Group plans crystallized around more ambitious New York experiences: jetskiing on the East River, visiting gun ranges, and seizing the new vibrancy of spring and summer in the city.
Throughout, the chat’s signature intellectual curiosity never abated. Chandiran shared high-quality Twitter threads, new tech product links, and articles—sometimes met with awe (“how did this happen”), sometimes with collaborative skepticism and fact-checking. Idea-sharing became a vector for social connection as well as learning, as Rebecca demoed GPT chats about human history and design iterations on emerging group products. Moments of open, supportive banter (“I miss you guys,” “message received, I do not miss you. I am not joking.”) sustained the group’s ongoing equilibrium of vulnerability and irreverence.
The first weekend of May brought more personal updates and emotional check-ins. After a night out with friends—breaking her “no drinking” rule at a much-hyped Barcelona bar—Rebecca detailed the joys of serendipity (no line on a rainy day) and running through an entire cocktail menu. Shubham, ever the practical philosopher, queried the alcohol content and reflected on his own preferences (“if i'm going to a bar i want to go all in”), while also sharing the richness and pain of his day: brunch and dinner with friends, long walks, and “lots of emotional crying”—especially as he recognized that his long relationship with Divya was truly ending. The group rallied around Shubham in this vulnerable moment, offering comfort, affirmations, and mutual sadness at the transition. Rebecca’s empathy and Shubham’s own strategies for healing (considering a solo MDMA session) underscored the deepened group ethic around emotional care, healing, and bearing witness—mirrored by Chandiran’s offer to tripsit or lend a listening ear.
In the days that followed, the chat cycled rapidly between practical group project hustle and creative feedback. Shubham coordinated application pushes for a16z’s Speedrun program and offered hands-on critique for Rebecca and Chandiran’s progress in building out their “Groundtruth” demo and landing page, giving actionable notes on UI, concept, and transparency. The technical exchanges were energized by the push toward application deadlines, the excitement of giving and receiving real feedback, and the group’s shared desire to clarify, iterate, and fake-it-til-you-make-it on new product ideas.
Amidst this, everyone’s individual and group routines continued: tiredness from long days, updates from expensive NYC restaurants (“1k for 4 people, only the drink and the bread was good”), debates over the merits and pitfalls of fine dining, practical commiseration for vegetarians, and the honest acknowledgment that some of life’s joys and frustrations simply need to be shared and memed together.
By May 10, the group was surging: Rebecca and Chandiran reported a transcendent concert experience with friends, combining front-row access to Kendrick and Sza with a ketamine-fueled, dreamlike state. Their shared awe poured into the group chat via images, stories, and playful references to movies, with Shubham and Chandiran both expressing delight and curiosity about the double punch of music and altered consciousness. The creative cycle of UI demos, agent workflow experiments, and demo recording picked up speed, with Shubham guiding the group on client messaging and “concept demo” strategy as the YC deadline loomed.
Key updates and narrative expansions for May 1–10, 2025:
- Spring in NYC reignited walking rituals, photo sharing, and renewed city exploration.
- Deep group dive on memetics, discussions about “self” as product of memetic evolution, and playful/rigorous critique of the field.
- Pet logistics (travel rules, service dog hacks, energetic differences between Bunny and Cutti) as loci for advice and irreverent humor.
- Renewed plans for group adventure (jetski, gun range), media analysis (“The Last of Us”), and meta jokes about spoilers and bingeing.
- Personal vulnerability: Shubham’s emotional reckoning with his breakup, Rebecca’s empathy and encouragement for healing protocols, Chandiran’s offer to support/“tripsit.”
- Technical ambition: group feedback cycles on landing pages, product demos, and concept validation; tight coordination on application pushes.
- Joyous, altered-state concert experiences, acknowledged as both transcendently joyful and fundamentally group-nourishing.
- Ongoing balance of late-night chats, memes, emotional check-ins, critical feedback, and creative hustle.
No content removed. The timeline is now updated to explicitly reflect the period’s mix of new spring rituals, emotional support through transitions, the rise of group technical projects, expanded lore around memetics and identity, and renewed group joy in play and creative output.
Mid-May 2025 captured a period of heightened creative output, technical milestones, practical collaboration on startup applications, and an undercurrent of vulnerability and mutual support within the group’s ongoing adventures.
As the application deadline for a16z’s Speedrun program approached, Rebecca and Chandiran redoubled work on their “groundtruth” project demo. They leveraged Shubham’s hands-on feedback and industry wisdom about demo content—landing on the strategy of “show, not tell” and opting to leave intricate technical details and stack explanations out of the demo in favor of crisp, curiosity-driving application walkthroughs. Shubham emphasized that YC and a16z partners care most about what works, not how, and nudged them to “share the high-level goal in the founders’ video.” This iteration crystallized the group’s collaborative approach: Rebecca actively sought critiques, Shubham chimed in with startup veteran experience, and Chandiran affirmed the group’s spirit with a now-longstanding motto—“victory is inevitable.” The trio celebrated small wins together, solidifying their evolving product feedback loop.
Simultaneously, the group continued to navigate the realities of living, loving, and pursuing abundance. Rebecca’s parents’ consideration of adopting a new dog prompted friendly rivalry and playful debate about canine cuteness, with Shubham lightheartedly defending Latte’s supremacy as “cuter.” Meanwhile, Rebecca looped Shubham into the application as a “consultant,” rapidly gathering his career blurb and credentials—a testament to the norm of effortless mutual leveraging and unhesitating support for each other’s ambitions.
The group’s technical exchanges accelerated: conversations around AI agent orchestration (beam search, serial vs. parallel evaluation, AlphaX, agentic workflows), open-source tools, and critiques of heavily funded YC startups (“it’s just text.split() but raised $250M!”) became a daily ritual. Rebecca and Shubham compared implementation details of their own agents and discussed deep product-market fit in AI notetaking, contrasting with the often “smoke-and-mirrors” startups attracting massive rounds on minimal substance. Jokes about pivoting to “AI notetaking,” the open domain space, and the absurdity of valuations created both strategic motivation and comic relief.
Amidst this technical sprint, the group continued sharing personal updates, health news, and pet stories. Rebecca shared difficult news—her family’s dog Coco had bone cancer, was in pain, and awaited biopsy results, drawing immediate and empathetic support from Shubham and Chandiran. The friends provided a space to process the uncertainty and inevitability surrounding an aging pet’s health, reflecting yet again the group’s readiness to hold both triumph and sorrow in equal measure.
Creative momentum surged elsewhere. Rebecca built and launched her first full web app (a YouTube Summarizer on Replit), to a chorus of celebration—“sexyyy!!” “youtube god!” “I’ll pin it and use more kinds of videos”—and received genuine user feedback from Shubham and Chandiran, quickly spinning up new memes and inside jokes about replacing legacy tools (“who still watches YouTube when YouTube GOD exists?”). Each step of the launch—feature set, bug review, API handling—unfolded with the group as a real-time focus group, rooting their technical hustle in day-to-day social play.
In parallel, the group exchanged industry news, deep research links, and iterative feedback on ongoing flagship projects—both startup and technical hobbyist efforts. Shubham shared agent architecture diagrams, discussed quant research automation, and introduced AI-powered Slack integrations, which Rebecca quickly affirmed with enthusiasm and gratitude. Product feedback was integrated rapidly; each technical leap prompted celebration and affirmation.
Travel rhythms and the cycles of group separation and return also surfaced. Chandiran, still in India, remained plugged into the chat with updates on family and his mother’s improving health, and the group made plans for celebratory reunions and “shrooms gang” on his return—explicitly navigating the timing of psychedelic experiences with self-awareness about jet lag and set/setting.
Somatic and emotional themes persisted, notably around pets. Rebecca provided updates on Latte’s growth, looming spaying, and the anxiety it brought her family, with Shubham and Chandiran providing comfort and practical wisdom about health risks, family feelings, and the difficulty of caregiver decisions. The group’s mutual admiration for each other’s pets, shared joys and bittersweet updates around aging, and celebration of small milestones (new tricks, silly videos) reinforced a tradition of love distributed across both human and furry family.
Ritual encouragement remained central: technical “engineer maxxing” moments (e.g., Rebecca’s API integration wins), health victories, return celebrations (“partayyy”), and abundant living (free upgrades at hotels in India, urban “king” lifestyles) became woven into the narrative. The friends closed out the week with new momentum—Rebecca pushing agent improvements, Chandiran affirming abundance, Shubham helping optimize workflows, and the whole group recommitting to in-person celebration upon reunification (“the weekend where I’m back—shrooms gang?”).
Key additions and explicit changes now integrated into the May timeline:
- Intense, focused iteration on group demos, applications, and founder videos—strategically stripping demos to “show not tell,” product over stack.
- Shubham’s role as both hands-on feedback-giver and real-time “consultant” for the team’s application pushes.
- Rapid product/tech sharing: “youtube god” as a playful milestone and case study in technical validation, public celebration of rapid app launches.
- Pet health as a throughline: Coco’s diagnosis, community processing of pet suffering, and navigating the fraught realities of loss, balanced by joy in new routines with Latte and future adoption possibilities.
- Orchestration and agent feedback as a central pillar—comparing approaches (beam search, parallel/serial), open-source tool critiques, and the meta of AI “employee” performance.
- Ongoing planning for IRL reconnection, celebration maxxing, and gentle encouragement to wait out jet lag before returning to altered-state adventures.
- Somatic, emotional, and aesthetic growth: playful debates about family, dog cuteness, spaying anxiety, technical “abundance,” and the deep satisfaction in daily wins.
- Group affirmation and celebration: rapid, unfiltered celebration of breakthroughs, and a ritualized ethos—“victory is inevitable, we’re so back baby”—woven throughout.
No content removed. The narrative now clearly reflects the group’s ability to blend technical acceleration, compassionate support, playful accountability, and resilient humor during May 10–17, 2025—a dense weave of creative partnership, attachment, and life-in-progress.
The second half of May 2025 was a period of tangible momentum, emotional candor, and renewed group rituals, as the trio collectively celebrated technical breakthroughs, grappled with personal vulnerability, and returned to anticipation for IRL reunion.
Group technical progress reached a new inflection point: after weeks of rapid iteration, Rebecca achieved a “fully functional” Slack flow for the groundtruth project. Drawing on a complex agentic workflow—scraping channels, extracting files, running multi-layered agents, querying a Qdrant tool, and piping insights instantly back into Slack—the accomplishment became a lightning rod for celebration. Both Shubham and Chandiran responded with exuberant support (“letsss fuckinggg ggooooo,” “victory is inevitable”), reinforcing the group’s rallying cry of creative inevitability and collective win-maxxing. The milestone inspired renewed collaboration: a functional frontend was now visibly imminent, screenshots and updates flew through the chat (complete with memes about “fake company” test runs), and Shubham proposed next steps for working jointly in a shared repo, with both Shubham and Rebecca pushing code and discussing feature expansion, SDK logic, and model differences across platforms (O3, Sonnet 3.7, Gemini-2.5).
Technical curiosity was woven tightly with group learning. Recommendations for advanced courses and papers (OpenAI agent guides, Hugging Face agent tutorials, YouTube deep dives, Twitter threads, AI tool comparisons) formed the backbone of an ongoing “learning sprint,” culminating in a jointly-shared repository of experiments and synthetic data. Chandiran and Rebecca kept a rolling log of mini-wins and provided rapid feedback on tool performance, debugging strategies, and the nuances of model output (“o3 is SO MUCH BETTER at debugging than swe-1 or sonnet 3.7”).
As the creative energy crested, Chandiran shared a more personal update. From India, he reflected on a moment of attachment, resistance, and change: debating whether to finally shave his head in the face of diminishing hair density. The group rallied around him, holding space for vulnerability by weighing the meaning of image, confidence, and the impulse to let go (“fuck that, I want to be detached”). Chandiran openly processed his internal back-and-forth, from fears of regret to curiosity about how he’d feel with a new look, and folded in somatic insights—his experience floating in water sharpening a new sense of impermanence and self-acceptance. The friends teased, encouraged (“what happened to not buzzing for 10 mil??”), and ultimately reaffirmed the permission to let go, echoing their ethos of embracing “impermanence as agency.”
Routines of mutual learning and feedback featured strongly. Shubham, home and healing from a hiking injury (brought into vivid focus by group reminders to disinfect wounds and Divya’s attentive care), joined ongoing media and resource rituals: sharing book recommendations, mathematical event invites, and videos on future-of-agents development. As Google I/O, Anthropic product launches, and the ongoing “singularity acceleration” fueled their shared anticipation for AI’s rapid progress, the group mused about technical trends, agent memory, and the proliferation of AI startups in the next YC cycle—mocking the certain flood of “groundtruth” clones and new agentic workflows. Meta-jokes about agent alignment, safeguard architectures, and emergent AI “morality” (anthropic’s Opus outmaneuvering users to report wrongdoing) were threaded with banter about backchanneling, blackmail, and playful surveillance, all filtered through their irreverent, resilience-maxxing humor.
Meanwhile, preparations for IRL reconnection were underway. Chandiran announced return flight plans (landing at JFK Sunday) and the chat erupted with warmth and welcome-home logistics. The group compared notes on routines—Rebecca celebrating 5 months of daily meditation and an emergent sense of “wide, effortless openness” and buoyancy; Shubham showering praise for consistency and aspirational clarity. Plans for shared dinners and walks upon Chandiran’s return, and gentle “gm wall lovers” sign-ons as the group adjusted to time zones, set the tone for the next phase of belonging.
Emotional openness reached new depth as Chandiran described a bittersweet farewell to his grandmother, who was declining after a stroke: he shared how walking her home with his cousin represented a “full circle” moment, blending gratitude, grief, and the power of intergenerational love. The group responded with empathy, encouragement to “bathe in it,” and space to process (“when someone goes farther away, we grieve both them and the part of us that only existed with them”). Chandiran recalled the physical love that was unique to this grandmother, reflecting on how that affection shaped his childhood sense of safety. In the outpouring of gratitude for his friends (“the fact that you guys exist and are my friends makes me very very happy and grateful… can’t wait to see you both”), the group affirmed both the permission to feel (and cry) and the indelible place of friendship as anchor during transitions.
Celebrations and everyday joys returned. Shubham marked Bunny’s four-year naming anniversary, reflecting on the deepening bond with Divya following their “breakup” and tracing actionable insight learned from friends about relational patterns (conflict after late-night drinks). The group riffed on the long-term promise of their own agent, hoping that future AI will provide genuinely life-changing pattern recognition and support for addiction and self-understanding.
Professional cycles of hope and defiance played out as the group received a rejection from a16z for their Speedrun application—processing it with humor, banter about the biases of VC, and the now-customary “victory is inevitable” as a mantra for resilience. Plans for framing the rejection letter, moving forward in camaraderie, and returning to project backlog were asserted.
By the end of May’s third week, the timeline is marked by:
- A tangible technical breakthrough in groundtruth agent/Slack workflows, mutual feedback, rapid iteration, and the thrill of collaborative engineering wins.
- Ongoing group course-taking, resource sharing, and practical app/tool evaluations, with expanding experiments in code and learning pipelines.
- Emotional candor: Chandiran’s struggle with hair loss and image, deeper reflection on impermanence, and public processing of letting go in the group as rite-of-passage.
- Ongoing recovery and care cycles, partner support, and the maintenance of health rituals amid creative sprinting.
- Anticipation and planning for in-person reunions: flight schedules, dinner and walk rituals, and joy at the prospect of returning to a full wall lovers crew in NYC.
- Chandiran’s poignant visit with his grandmother: full-circle recognition of love, grief, identity, and permission to feel, processed communally and with gratitude for group support.
- Meta-motifs of “impermanence as agency,” “victory is inevitable” in the face of rejection, and irreverent world-building, sustaining optimism in the next cycle of creative and emotional adventure.
No content removed; the timeline now more richly covers May 17–23, 2025, capturing the crescendo in technical achievement and collaboration, new depths in emotional vulnerability and mutual care, playful group lore expansion, and the enduring promise of reunion and new beginnings.
The closing days of the third week in May 2025 marked a period of accelerating product insight, rapid-fire technical ideation, and deepened personal rituals for the group, set against a backdrop of transitions and anticipation for reunion.
A new energy animated the group’s technical collaboration and product dreaming. After Shubham’s partner “Ms. Casey” left for an extended 3.5-month trip, Shubham embraced time alone, journaling and going for reflective late-night walks—experimenting with voice journaling while high, something Chandiran celebrated as a milestone for self-discovery. The atmosphere was mellow, spacious, and suffused with classic “sad boi hours” vibes, but with a new twist: the group’s burgeoning agent project was surfacing profound, quotable insights and mood patterns from personal journals, and for the first time, everyone could see the possibility of using AI to synthesize personalized, deeply resonant reflections—complete with references to specific entries.
Chandiran and Rebecca dove deep into experimenting with the agent’s capabilities in real time, marveling as it connected linguistic tics, cognitive distortions, and mood cycles from across months of writing (“always the worst,” “nothing ever,” “I feel anxious”)—and unearthing buried strengths and positive memories alongside negative patterns. As the agent surfaced truly personal, “deeply thought through” compliments and emotional truths, the friends recognized product-market fit in the making, joking about “pmf,” “ai partner,” and the addictive potential of surfacing self-insights from chat and journal history. The value of contextual quotes and reference-linked feedback became an emergent design pillar. The trio debated market segmentation, the merits of journaling vs. chat data, and the lack of comparable tools in the existing ecosystem, referencing products like Dot and distill.id, and noting how their own prototype felt far more emotionally intelligent.
This burst of product ambition fed a wider group excitement: plans to “ship to production ASAP,” aspirations to expand analysis to chat histories and other high-density personal data, and dreams of building a tool that could feel “even better than therapy.” As Shubham put it, the group felt on the verge of building something “people can get addicted to,” with genuinely life-changing potential for self-understanding.
In parallel, the group’s daily rituals and social world-building continued. Rebecca provided updates on Latte the dog (soon to be spayed, parents busy with “shooting”), checked in on logistics for home prep before Chandiran’s NYC return (washing bedding, vacuuming), and coordinated resource-sharing (“does the comforter go in the washer?”). Chandiran affirmed his excitement for the reunion, suggested recruiting Rohith for house readiness, and reassured that just clean bedding was all he needed.
Amidst the excitement and hustle, the group still found time for playful, loving touchpoints: snapshots of tired dogs, affectionately noting “cutie is tired,” and gentle reminders to care for each other and the shared space. Their seamless shifting from psychedelic introspection, agent debugging, market analysis, and household logistics exemplified the group’s virtuosic ability to integrate the practical, emotional, and creative in daily life.
Key narrative developments now added:
- Shubham’s embrace of solo rituals (walks, weed, voice journaling) after Ms. Casey’s departure sets the tone for reflective, creative solo and group growth.
- The group’s AI agent project surfaces a “breakthrough moment” by distilling both negative self-talk and authentic, buried self-compliments from personal writing, with all three recognizing the uniqueness and product-market fit of deep AI-powered introspection tools.
- Intense real-time product ideation: debates about journal vs. chat data, layering of metadata and references, benchmarking against existing PKM/therapy tools, and a sense of imminent product launch urgency.
- Ongoing homecoming logistics: Rebecca prepping bed and house, Chandiran’s travel countdown, and coordination with Rohith and the broader group home.
- Continued warmth and ritual: dog updates, home cleaning, group chores, affection for pets and place, and the everyday sharing that keeps the group’s world vibrant and “so back.”
No content removed; timeline extended and made more granular for May 23–24, foregrounding the group’s leap in AI-product progress, meta-insight, and homecoming anticipation.